[Gpdd] Gpdd ANNOUNCEMENT I'm new to the list!

Michelle Melaragno doc141melaragno at adelphia.net
Thu Dec 4 21:24:18 EST 2003


Hello to all!
	Came across the Digest looking for INFO...I am in the process of
becoming a licensed GP rescue.  I'll be the only one in the state of
Maine, due to the closing of only one other licensed rescue.  I
currently have 15 GP's...all rescues, 9 here to stay, 5 available for
adoption and 1 in foster care from the local humane society.  I have
been very lucky to have found homes for 10 others so far!  I am also mom
to a horse, 5 sheep, 1 dog, 6 cats, 2 rats and a rabbit.
	I have a question.  From other postings...please describe the
referenced "Critical Care".  I have so far had no severe health issues,
but it is only a matter of time, I'm sure!
	Hope I have done this properly!

Michelle & the critter crew in Maine!

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Announcement (Off1Knight at aol.com)
   2. HEALTH: Baby Piglets (Emma Silvester)
   3. [Health] Dear Julia and baby Delilah... (Jolanda van Hintum)
   4. dsn help - cavy in labor (Karen Brown)
   5. [ANNOUNCE] <Re: response to Introduction of Kirsten and gang
      - pictures of the gang> (Kirsten McKnight)
   6. [BREEDING]  (K.Newbould at hlc.org.uk)
   7. Re: Health: Penny wheezing (Susan Eastin)
   8. MISC: Hay Feeding Strategy (Susan Eastin)
   9. [HEALTH] coughing (KNOTT9 at aol.com)
  10. Health: Surgery Questions (Susan Eastin)
  11. [ANNOUNCEMENT] Hi I'm new!! (Sara Deusterhoff)
  12. SILLY:  Post-celebration behavior (Susan Eastin)
  13. CARE - Food Storage (Janell)
  14. [Behavior]  boy and girl bonding (Karen Brown)
  15. RE: [HEALTH] Coat repair? (Susan Eastin)
  16. [behavior] - pig with an attitude... (Bob & Chris Robertson)
  17. CARE:  Vets (Mary Destatte)
  18. Re: Health: Surgery Questions (DFHAKES at aol.com)
  19. Re: Announcement: Condolences for Delilah (Off1Knight at aol.com)
  20. [SILLY] Piggy Personals (Algernon07 at aol.com)
  21. Health: Brownie Bear Update (Leah McNeil)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 02:16:22 EST
From: Off1Knight at aol.com
Subject: [Gpdd] Re: Announcement
To: Gpdd at gpdd.org
Message-ID: <1d1.154e99ec.2cfee7c6 at aol.com>
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Dear David and Beth,
I cannot believe that so soon after the passing of your little CINDER, 
EVANDER HOLYPIG has made the trip across the Bridge. The sadness and
loss you feel I 
am sure no words could ever describe. After reading your post of his
passing, 
I am compelled to tell you that you did all that was humanly possible
for the 
little guy. There is no way to truly KNOW when one of these little bits
of 
heaven are sick before it is beyond the point at which a vets assistance
would 
be useful. What you did was what any loving parent would do for his
little guy 
or girl, myself included, that is get him to the vet as soon as
possible. Your 
holding him and feeding him as you did to get something into him was
also the 
right thing to do, since you know all to well that when they stop
eating, it 
is serious. You said you named him EVANDER HOLYPIG for the tear in  his
ear. 
Well I think today you can see that you gave him a name he truly
deserved. A 
name befitting him for his tenacious fight to stay with you. He WAS a
fighter 
and sometimes when you fight you DO win...and for every second he stayed
with 
you HE DID WIN...your love was what sustained him and it was for that he
fought 
for life. You said how he hated the feedings, well they KNOW when we are
doing 
something for their good no matter how unpleasant. It brings tears to my
eyes 
thinking of how you must have felt as you held him and wishing in a way
the 
end would come and he could be free of the pain and the hurt and at the
same 
time NEVER wanting to see him pass. He was a good boy and lived up to
his name 
and you lived up to the love he knew you had for him and I am SURE that
through 
his most difficult times, it was that love that sustained him. I truly 
believe the most difficult part of his passing was HIS desire to stay
with you, but 
it is God that gave him to this world and it is God that leads him back
across 
the bridge. I am SURE you , as I believe in the bridge and KNOW he is
now 
whole again not suffering and keeping your little CINDER company. And I
am SURE 
he has told her how much you love them and miss them BOTH. So please
accept my 
deepest cna most sincere condolences on the loss of EVANDER and God keep
him 
close until you see him again. 

Sincerely,

Joseph Petrillo, father of George the guinea pig 


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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:57:07 -0000
From: "Emma Silvester" <missus at emma-silvester.fsnet.co.uk>
Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH: Baby Piglets
To: <Gpdd at gpdd.org>
Message-ID: <000001c3b97b$6f6e4740$bac3883e at shuttlebox>
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Hi Everyone,
 
I have only been a subscriber to this page for about a week and already
I can't imagine what I did without it! It is great to see so many
likeminded piggy people out there! I have 6 current piggies (Maud,
Myrtle, Basil, Fred, Ginger and Wilma) with more on the way (Fred and
Ginger the proud parents-to-be). I have kept and loved piggies for 8
years now and these are my second lot of piglets to be born. I have read
loads of info about them (Peter Gurney is a fantastic source, both in
book form and on the web. What he doesn't know about piggies isn't worth
knowing! He lives with over 70 in his apartment and knows each and every
one by name and likes/dislikes!) Anyway, GPs are very good mothers with
few problems occurring during birth. The one to look out for is the one
that someone mentioned in GPdd 96 when a GP still hasn't finished
delivering. Peter Gurney says that this is one case where you need to
get your GP to a vet asap as the stuck piglet has to be removed as soon
as possible. 
 
 
With regards to the recently departed piggies (may they rest in peace) I
too have had a total of 3 GPs who have passed away from the same
symptoms. The first, Honky, lived with me and I spent so much time in
her company that I noticed the very first sign of the illness. I took
her straight to the vet and did all the things that everyone else has
mentioned (cuddles, syringe feeding, staying up all night) to no avail.
I just wanted to reassure the others out there that they did everything
they could. None of us could have known how fast this mystery illness
would take our babies away from us and at least they passed over knowing
how much they were loved.
 
Wheeps and squeaks to all,
 
Emma and all


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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 12:27:14 +0100
From: "Jolanda van Hintum" <jvanhintum at hotmail.com>
Subject: [Gpdd] [Health] Dear Julia and baby Delilah...
To: tabithaporter at yahoo.com
Cc: Gpdd at gpdd.org
Message-ID: <BAY2-F38qddgD6S566j00005163 at hotmail.com>
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When i read your post about your little Delilah's passing, the tears 
streamed down my cheeks.

I went through almost the same thing, a couple of years ago with my
babyboy 
Fievel (he was also only 18 months when he died...).
Fievel stopt eating also and the vet told me it had to do with his
molars. 
He cut them but after that operation Fievel wouldn't eat a thing. I 
syringe-fed him for a month but he was getting thinner and thinner. One 
morning I woke up to find his eyes turned all cloudy and misty grey, and
I 
couldn't see him suffer any longer. With pain in my heart my boyfriend
and I 
brought him to the vet and he died in my arms at the vets office.
Allthough I fed him all good things, I read about Critical Care after he

died and I felt really guilty. Maybe if I had given him the Critical
Care he 
would have survived, etc, etc. Or maybe I should have fed him for two 
months, etc.
But I know now I did everything I could to help him.
Just as you did everything you could to help your baby Delilah...

Lots of sympathy in these sad times from Jolanda, slave to Youp and
Harry 
from Holland.

_________________________________________________________________
MSN Search, for accurate results! http://search.msn.nl




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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 05:53:39 -0800 (PST)
From: Karen Brown <shanclan2003 at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Gpdd] dsn help - cavy in labor
To: gobigred312002 at yahoo.com
Cc: "gpdd at gpdd.org" <gpdd at gpdd.org>
Message-ID: <20031203135339.45057.qmail at web13010.mail.yahoo.com>
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What happened?  Did she deliver?

=====
Karen J. Brown
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:26:49 -0500
From: "Kirsten McKnight" <Kirsten.McKnight at EQAO.com>
Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCE] <Re: response to Introduction of Kirsten
	and gang	- pictures of the gang>
To: <gpdd at gpdd.org>
Message-ID:
	<C75EC0D382C2C14E9ADF1CB59314435B0DAF93 at eqaoexc01.eqao.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Hi Susan,

If you want to send me your email address (and anyone else who is
interested may do so too!) I would be happy to send you an invite from
the website. Of course, this will only work if your provider accepts
html formatted email??

Let me know! I think the beautiful cat was my sweetie Sylvester - the
black and white tuxedo cat?

Wheeks purrs and all that!
Kirsten

Kirsten McKnight, MISt
Coordinator, Records Management/Data Archivist
Education, Quality, and Accountability Office
2 Carlton St. Suite 1200
Toronto, ON M5B 2M9
416-326-2461
 




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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:47:13 -0000
From: <K.Newbould at hlc.org.uk>
Subject: [Gpdd] [BREEDING] 
To: <gpdd at gpdd.org>
Message-ID:
	<AD941EEF2F6F1C429540C047F550A19B028A5C41 at exserver1.hlc.org>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

My guinea-pig is called Sugar and I have started breeding from her, she
is my baby, though I breed from her and her sister and her first child
(the dad I can not reach) and her sister.



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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:32:14 -0600
From: "Susan Eastin" <susan at boatlift.com>
Subject: [Gpdd] Re: Health: Penny wheezing
To: "Gpdd" <gpdd at gpdd.org>
Message-ID: <IDECJDHBGKCDDNPBBCHHAEANCEAA.susan at boatlift.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Dawnda-
The information on wheezing out of the GP book is great.  So far we've
been
lucky;
the only time I've heard anything like wheezing out of the Okie Piggies
was
a few
times when CocoPuff got really worried as to where Snowy was and wheeked
loudly.
Each time he wheeked, he'd sound like he was wheezing - wheek - wheeze -
wheek -
wheeze.  When he calmed down (immediately on finding Snowy), I'd pick
him up
and
listen to his breathing, etc., and he sounded fine.  He'd give me a
strange
look, but
he sounded fine.  So maybe that's the stress-related wheezing it
mentions.
Your mention of the fluid buildup makes me wonder, again, about Snowy.
Just
how
big should a gp be?  She's 8 months old now, and seems so wide and fat!
She's only a
month older than CocoPuff, but has always been bigger.  He just can't
seem
to catch up!
I keep hoping she's with pig, but still doesn't seem to be. (do the home
pregnancy tests
work for piggies?)  They went to the local vet for a nail trim in Oct
and he
pronounced
them both  healthy, but I keep wondering.  They don't popcorn and run as
much as
they did at first, but are active.  CocoPuff is definitely more
fit-looking;
Snowy sometimes
just looks like a big green & white blob. (in spite of baths, she always
seems to get green
here and there on her fluffy white coat from the parsley and clover)
Does she sound like she's within the norm, or should she see an exotics
vet?
Susi and the Okie Piggies
  ~Snowy & CocoPuff





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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:45:14 -0600
From: "Susan Eastin" <susan at boatlift.com>
Subject: [Gpdd] MISC: Hay Feeding Strategy
To: "Gpdd" <gpdd at gpdd.org>
Message-ID: <IDECJDHBGKCDDNPBBCHHIEANCEAA.susan at boatlift.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

That sounds like a great hay feeder!  Having fed hay to cattle for many
years, I've
learned that what gets scattered on the ground and laid on (and more!)
and
is wasted.
A hay feeder that contains the hay but allows access to most of it is
great.
With the piggies, I use one of those plastic feeders that attach to the
outside of the cage
and you fill it from the top.  It's angled so it all falls down where
they
can get it.  I also
use one of those square wire bird feeders designed for a block of suet,
and
don't snap it
completely closed.  It's on a long chain that I use to hang it on the
side
of the pen or cage.
Another thing I've found useful are little chrome-covered soap holders
on
suction cups.
(from the housewares dept at WalMart).  They're V-shaped and open at the
ends. The suction
cups fit nicely between the bars on the cage, or they could be fastened
on
with tie-wires.
I use these to hold fresh grass and clover, or whatever similar treats I
find.  At first Snowy
seemed scared of these and would run up and dump out the food, push the
feeder away,
then eat.  But she's gotten over her fear (apparently the chrome), at
least
enough to eat
quicker without the hassle!  I first used a little wire section from
another
critter cage and
attached it to the side of the cage at a "V"'d angle and put their
clover it
it.  But it had very
square corners that could hurt an eye, and the chrome things have
rounded
corners.
But I definitely know what you mean about walking into a store and
seeing
things in terms
of the piggies!  this must be a sickness, an obsession . . . my grown
kids
are threatening to
have me commited (I tell them fine, as long as I can take my piggies!)
I love to look at the different cage designs and themes, etc., and get
all
kinds of ideas.  We
currently have a split-level, but it is a 'work in progress'.  (Just
wait
til after Christmas!)
Hugs to all,
Susi and the Okie Piggies
  ~Snowy & CocoPuff





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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:49:27 EST
From: KNOTT9 at aol.com
Subject: [Gpdd] [HEALTH] coughing
To: gpdd at gpdd.org
Message-ID: <145.1dd6690c.2cff8a37 at aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

Hello
This is my first posting,
 I have got two piggys Barney and Archie. I have had them for six
months.
They both seem very happy lively pigs however Archie has started to
cough he 
has no other side effects and scoffs everything that is put in front of
him. 
My pigs are kept inside out of any draughts I was wondering if it could
be the 
bedding or hay making him cough. I would appreciate any advice.

Sara, Barney & Archie


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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:26:32 -0600
From: "Susan Eastin" <susan at boatlift.com>
Subject: [Gpdd] Health: Surgery Questions
To: "Gpdd" <gpdd at gpdd.org>
Message-ID: <IDECJDHBGKCDDNPBBCHHEEAOCEAA.susan at boatlift.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Hi Leah ~
Poor little Brownie Bear!  We'll all be holding our collective breath,
with
fingers
and paws crossed tomorrow.  Our prayers will be with you for the best
results.
What do they say can cause the UTI's?  I'm sure it's similar to people,
that
some
are just predisposed to a condition, but I'd like to do what I can to
try to
avoid
some of these situations.  But if it's something like too much parsley,
that
would
be hard to change . . . no candy, for sure!

Please keep us posted on how it goes!
Love and wheeks from
Susi and the Okie Piggies
  ~Snowy & CocoPuff




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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:22:15 -0800 (PST)
From: Sara Deusterhoff <deusterhoff at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCEMENT] Hi I'm new!!
To: Gpdd at gpdd.org
Message-ID: <20031203192215.87747.qmail at web60408.mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

(hope I'm doing this right...)
 
Hello All!
 
     New and glad to be here!  I'm 23 from Minnesota and my fiancee and
I are looking for our first pet.  After considering and rejecting many
other types of pets, we've decided to add a guinea pig to our happy
home.  To ensure that my soon to be named "Squishy" (is that  a dumb
name?) , is super-duper happy (seems like lots of piggies go down an
unfortunate road) ...we're doing TONS of research before our purchase.
So I hope to get to know many of you well and thanks for letting me
post!
 
Sara and Joe


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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:35:04 -0600
From: "Susan Eastin" <susan at boatlift.com>
Subject: [Gpdd] SILLY:  Post-celebration behavior
To: "Gpdd" <gpdd at gpdd.org>
Message-ID: <IDECJDHBGKCDDNPBBCHHKEAOCEAA.susan at boatlift.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Just wondering if anyone else has noticed strange behavior from their
piggies
since their Great Trip and Celebration?  Sometimes I notice Snowy &/or
CocoPuff
just gazing wistfully with a bit of a smile.  A couple times Miss Snowy
has
actually
disappeared for a short time.  You will remember that both of these
little
rascals
actually sneaked out early on the morning of our flight to the Western
Ocean, leaving
me behind. (said they "forgot" I was going with them, in all the
excitement)
I have heard bits of conversations, concerning Mr Cooders, and how Snowy
resembles
Miss Callie only younger!  Should either of these little characters
suddenly
show up
as "visitors" to your piggies, please delay them and contact me at once.
Also, they now seem to expect the full Brunch Buffet, turning up their
little noses
at simple offerings of carrot or spinach.
More a slave than ever,
Susi (for the OP's)

Also- has anyone managed to compile a scrapbook of pigtures from the
Celebration?
I have a few pigtures I can share that fell out of their luggage when
they
returned.





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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:35:47 -0800
From: "Janell" <eythell at worldnet.att.net>
Subject: [Gpdd] CARE - Food Storage
To: <Gpdd at gpdd.org>
Message-ID: <000901c3b9dd$0dc48600$b714490c at att.net>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

I buy Cavy Cuisine in 5 pound bags.  Do I need to put the unopened bags
in
the freezer to keep the Vit. C safe?  Or can they just sit in my dry
garage
(as long as they are unopened)?

Warm Wheeks, Janelle




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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:22:23 -0800 (PST)
From: Karen Brown <shanclan2003 at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Gpdd] [Behavior]  boy and girl bonding
To: DFHAKES at aol.com
Cc: "gpdd at gpdd.org" <gpdd at gpdd.org>
Message-ID: <20031203212223.81254.qmail at web13011.mail.yahoo.com>
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Don't underestimate the power of sow to punch out a
frisky boar.  I've seen it happen.  

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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:38:08 -0600
From: "Susan Eastin" <susan at boatlift.com>
Subject: [Gpdd] RE: [HEALTH] Coat repair?
To: "Gpdd" <gpdd at gpdd.org>
Message-ID: <IDECJDHBGKCDDNPBBCHHKEBACEAA.susan at boatlift.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Does anyone know if anything can be done to correct a minor
hair problem?  The lady we got CocoPuff from said apparently
one of the other piggies got hold of the hair on his little nose
and jerked it, because it sticks out instead of lying down. She
said it would eventually lie down.  Well, that was over 6 months
ago, and it still sticks out.  When I rub his head and nose it will
kind of lie down, but then goes right back the way it was.  It's 
not like a crest or rosette or whatever, not even a cowlick.
Just a very small tuft, like a very small paint brush.  If it did 
the same on the other side, it would look like a mustache!
Can we do anything to correct it?  Should we just get some
hair gel and make the other side match?  
I don't know if he makes rude remarks under his breath or what,
but when he and Snowy are on my lap, sometimes she'll suddenly
turn and act like she's going to bite him, usually on the nose.
A few times my hand has been in the way, and it just feels like
she's hitting with her teeth, not biting. But he'll hold his head up
for a few minutes as though he's been reprimanded for something.
So it may be something he brings on himself . . . 
Susi and the OP's





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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:33:25 -0800
From: "Bob & Chris Robertson" <rssg at earthlink.net>
Subject: [Gpdd] [behavior] - pig with an attitude...
To: "GPDD" <gpdd at gpdd.org>
Message-ID: <009201c3b9ed$77562d70$0201a8c0 at Office>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Scott & Rebecca.  We adopted a rescue pig who had been almost starved to
death.  In fact, when she was picked up by rescue she was in the cage
with
her two sisters, and one of them was dead already.  She has been with us
for
4 & 1/2 years now, and she still is marked by that experience.  Her cage
mate is very gentle and tolerates Cleo's pushy nature.  The minute food
is
placed in the cage Cleo is all over it, and will push her sister away
until
she has run around it, sniffed and sized it up and has eaten some of it.
At
first we worried about this, but the girls do just fine together, as our
other gal is laid back and just waits her "turn".  Both are well fed and
loved: cavy cusine is available at all times, a full hay rack, fresh
vegetable bowl every morning, and romaine & greens (including grass)
daily.
Yet, our poor Cleo still jumps at the food as if it will disappear if
she
turns her back.  It can be that when your little one was sick she
underwent
a marking of sorts also, and this has changed her.  In our house we just
laugh at Cleo as she acts like she is starving - standing in a pile of
food!

Chris, Cleo and Spookie




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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:08:39 -0500
From: "Mary Destatte" <mdstretch at tbbs.net>
Subject: [Gpdd] CARE:  Vets
To: "*Guinea Pig Daily Digest" <gpdd at gpdd.org>
Message-ID: <003c01c3b9fa$c6254640$6701a8c0 at mdstretch>
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Hi.  This Mary D (mom to angel and stretch)  I've been out of touch for
at least a month do to a downed computer.  But I am back now.
(Yeaaaah!)  It was bad timing with the lay of the last golden poo
happening during this time and angle and stretch off on their first trip
alone.  I'm up to issue 75 of the GPDD so I do have some catching up to
do.  I wanted to  comment on the issue of good vs not so good vets.
Some of the questions that have been list to ask your vet before
allowing him/her to do surgery on you little piggie are excellent.  My
vet did not even want to the surgery on stretch when I asked to nueter
him.  I want a female though and my lease allows for me to have 2
piggies at a time.  (besides the fact that I do not think that I would
have been able to care more than this--even though my heart is to just
once have baby piggies)  I had to so not to my self and let him know how
serious this needed to be done.  He recovered so quickly and is doing
fantastic.  As for the oil gland I do not have the problem of his fur
getting so bad since angel has moved in.  She takes care of him as he
were her own baby (even though he is 1 year older).  She really keeps
him clean.  

I want to race through and read all of the back issues so that I can
find out the trip went.  Angel and stretch have been very mute on the
subject.  She is a little more fiesty and he seems to be worn out.  If
anyone knows what they were up to I am anxious to know.  Should I let
them go again alone the next time somethings  up.  I hope that I get
some ideas of what they might have done by reading the back issues.  The
kissing booth I've read about having questioning if it has anything to
do with stretches being so worn out.

Well I need to read on so bye for now.

Mary D. (mom to angel and stretch)



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Message: 18
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:49:11 EST
From: DFHAKES at aol.com
Subject: [Gpdd] Re: Health: Surgery Questions
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Cc: lconsuela at yahoo.com
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Leah,

As a starting point, you might want to check the House Rabbit Society 
website.  Go to www.rabbit.org and click on vets.  Many vets who
specialize in 
rabbits also see guinea pigs.  You might ask the front office how many
guinea pigs 
they see on a weekly basis.  Go ahead and ask the vet the tough
questions about 
their experience with the surgery.  A good vet will not get defensive.

Dana F. Hakes
Chapter Manager
Tampa Bay House Rabbit Society
www.tampabayhrs.org
http://www.petfinder.org/shelters/FL92.html

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..but, surely, the world will change for that one pet..."

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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:52:41 EST
From: Off1Knight at aol.com
Subject: [Gpdd] Re: Announcement: Condolences for Delilah
To: Gpdd at gpdd.org
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Julia,

I wanted to offer my most sincere and deepest regrets on the loss of
your 
little girl Dililah. There is NEVER EVER a good time to see any of our
little 
guys cross over the bridge. But there are situations that make that loss
even 
more difficult. When a little one like Lilac, the weeks old pet shop
piggy that 
never had a chance at life, passed it was no less than heartbreaking
because 
she never even knew what love was. Then there are those that live to the
fine 
age of 8 or 9. We cry long and hard for these very dear friends and even
though 
we have given them the most wonderful life possible, our hearts are
darkened 
for the emptiness they leave when they pass over the bridge. For just as
a best 
friend is missed when they pass away, so are these little ones that have
had 
a wonderful life but will be ever so missed. Then there are these even
sadder, 
if that is possible, like Dililah who had a wonderful home and obviously
all 
the love any guinea pig could ever want by her mother, Julia. In God's 
infinite wisdom, he has seen fit to allow this little girl ut a taste of
these 
wondrous things before taking her in his arms in what seemed to be no
more than the 
blink of an eye. And though it is terrible to feel that ache in your
heart for 
her, remember that she is now FREE of pain and I truly think that worse
than 
loosing a little one is to see him or her suffer. And there are times
that 
this cannot be helped because just as you love them, they love you and
fight to 
stay with you as long as possible. Dililah was one such little girl. The
love 
she had for her mother made her fight and for that you should be proud
of her. 
She left our world for a much better place where she will never suffer
for a 
MOMENT more. I place where I believe WE are all discussed at length and
breath. 
A place where one day we will make them proud when we cross that bridge
and 
they will tell all their friends, "HERE IS MY MOMMY" or "HERE IS MY
DADDY" So 
Julia, in Dililah's passing there is one ray of light meant just for you
and 
that is you will have her waiting for you when God sees fit to allow you
across 
the bridge and KNOW that she is telling all the little ones on that side
of 
the bridge how her mother would not let her go without giving her ALL
the love 
she had. Once again I am sorry for your loss. I know she will live
forever in 
your heart.

Sincerely,

Joseph C. Petrillo, George the guinea pigs father


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Message: 20
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 23:28:33 EST
From: Algernon07 at aol.com
Subject: [Gpdd] [SILLY] Piggy Personals
To: gpdd at gpdd.org
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

Hello,
Mr. Cooders here seeking news of Miss Cally, my delightful "new friend."

Coody


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Message: 21
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 06:26:50 -0800 (PST)
From: Leah McNeil <lconsuela at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Gpdd] Health: Brownie Bear Update
To: Guinea Pig Daily Digest <gpdd at gpdd.org>,	Guinea Pig Stone Digest
	<Stones at gpigs-database.org>
Message-ID: <20031204142650.79808.qmail at web21402.mail.yahoo.com>
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Hello Slaves!
First, I wanna Thank You for all of information
and support I've gotten from y'all. I really
would be lost without you guys.

I took B-Bear back to the Vet yesterday and
had x-rays done, and Good News--No Bladder Stones
(Thank God!). But, there was "something" going
on in her reproductive area(???). The Vet showed
me her x-ray and showed me a little "fuzzy" area--
it was a very small area and she told me that
it could be a buildup of Sludge (that white,
chalky stuff). The Vet also suggested that if
Brownie continues to whine when she pees, that
I should consider doing Exploratory Surgery on
her, or do an Ultrasound. Well, I'm not really
comfortable doing the Exploratory Surgery and
actually, I'll be taking her to a different Vet
on Saturday. I would like to get Brownie spayed,
and Judi (NoVa/D.C./Baltimore Rabbit & G-Pig
Rescue Goddess) referred me to a good Vet. And
that's the Vet that I'm taking B-Bear to on
Saturday.

The Vet yesterday had to take two x-rays because
the first one didn't come out so good, but you
can still see it if you put it up against bright
light. Well, she let me keep the 'bad' x-ray,
so I'm gonna also bring that for the new Vet.
But, I am planning to get x-rays done again on
Saturday (for a second opinion, if you will).

So, again I just want to Thank You you all for
emailing me privately and to the digest and for
keeping my Bear in your thoughts and prayers. 
Brownie Bear (and of course her Slave too) really
really really APPRECIATE IT...

Healing Wheeeeeeeeeps to those piggies (and Slaves
too) who are sickly. I hope you're feeling better
soon.

      Love 'n Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeps,
           Leah...Slave to Brownie Bear :-) 

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