[Gpdd] [HEALTH] George the GP...

Carol S guineapiglover at optonline.net
Mon Aug 2 07:19:46 EDT 2004


To all,

Just want to let you all know that I am a good friend of Joseph C. Petrillo
and his girlfriend. I am the slave to Angel, Sophie and Elsie, Angel being
George's wife.

Just wanted to clear that up...

Thanks, Carol



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>    1. ANNOUNCEMENT: BIRTHS, DEATHS AND MARRIAGES! (alexandra phillips)
>    2. HEALTH-- stones or uti? (Jenni)
>    3. Re: ANNOUNCEMENT piggies need new home (MICHAEL LABBATE)
>    4. [misc] Beanie Baby g.p. "Twitch" (MICHAEL LABBATE)
>    5. [CARE]Shelters, Free Adds, and Teeth (DL1Bossfan at aol.com)
>    6. Health - update on Trix (alicia rogers)
>    7. [Misc]  updates (truejedi at bellsouth.net)
>    8. [MISC]  New to GPDD (Amy)
>    9. {HEALTH} Muffin congested? (Selena S.)
>   10. [CARE] Shaving Clarification (dardeb206 at aol.com)
>   11. [MISC] <re: piggy patrol> (petunia_loo at yahoo.com)
>   12. [HEALTH] George the GP needs your prayers and well wishes!
>       (Carol S)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2004 12:40:33 +0100
> From: "alexandra phillips" <lexy at whochick67.fsnet.co.uk>
> Subject: [Gpdd] ANNOUNCEMENT: BIRTHS, DEATHS AND MARRIAGES!
> To: <Gpdd at gpdd.org>
> Message-ID: <002a01c477bc$5b666250$506086d9 at SN032247220064>
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> Hello everyone again (and especially Dawnda - thanks for the message!)
>
> Well, the numbers of GPigs in my house has swelled (considerably!).
>
> My Marigold gave birth to 4 bouncing babies on Friday afternoon
> at around lunch time.  So close to lunch time in fact that I was
> in the kitchen getting them all bowls of greens and various of
> their favourite munchies and nearly missed it!  I saw the last
> baby born, though and it was magical.  She's a wonderful mother,
> very doting, and all the babies are doing very well.  I have a
> very large 3-tiered hutch for my piggies at the moment, and I had
> put a wire mesh halfway down Marigold's level of the hutch so
> that her "husband" could still talk to her, but that there was no
> chance of him getting her pregnant again straight after she gave
> birth.  Well, he has been wheeping away at her and the babies and
> popcorning all over the place!  I think he's a proud dad!  I put
> Marigold and her husband, Cobweb, in the indoor run together
> yesterday afternoon while I cleaned out their hutch (with all the
> babies, natch!) and he was having a lovely time investigating
> them all and at the end they were all
>  following him around.  I think they were slightly in awe, as he
> is rather a enormous pig.
>
> Tansy also gave birth to her babies yesterday afternoon
> (Saturday) and, sadly, that was a less successful affair.  She
> had 3 beautiful babies, but there was a very big baby (a ginger
> and white girl) who was obviously a breach and she died during
> delivery.  I am at the moment, piggie, cat and fish-sitting for
> my next door neighbours who are on holiday and I was paying a
> visit to their pigs at the time and missed the birth.  However, I
> checked in on them when I got back and tried to do what I could
> for the baby, but I just couldn't bring it back.  Tansy was
> traumatised because the baby was still attached by the umbilical
> cord and she had to pass the placenta too, but I took the baby
> out of the hutch as quickly as I could as she had just run away
> from her other babies too.  One was still in the amniotic sac and
> was obviously still alive so I had to work on that one first to
> ensure it lived.  Success on that front!  I watched them for a
> while and she stayed well away from the babies, so I
>  decided to put them in the piggie carrier I have for vet visits
> while I cleaned out her hutch and removed signs of the other baby
> that died.  She then cleaned the other two up and didn't try and
> run away from them, but I'm not sure if she has fed them yet, so
> I'm going to need to keep a very close eye on them as I may need
> to hand-rear them, or I may try introducing them to Marigold, who
> is a super mother, to see if she will accept them and feed them,
> though 6 babies is going to be a real strain on her.  I did
> consider putting her and Tansy together, but they are sisters and
> they always used to bicker really badly anyway...bother!
>
> However, Tansy's "husband", Moonshine, (who is a lilac and white
> Argente - gorgeous but bonkers) is ecstatic at the arrival of the
> babies and keeps wheeping to them through the wire mesh...
>
> Good lord, just realised how much I have wittered on...sorry
> folks!  Will keep you posted on the babies.  As it is such a nice
> day here, I may take some of them round to play in my neighbour's
> garden (that's the problem with living in a flat).
>
> Ebony (one of my other girl pigs) is hoping to get back with her
> Frankie and friend Tiger-Lily soon, but she is recovering from an
> abscess (which has been HORRIBLE....let me tell you!).  She must
> have got a piece of hay lodged, because they don't fight..they're
> very harmonious, and having to squeeze that abscess to get the
> muck out has not been one of my most favourite jobs!
>
> Gotta go and check on next door's piggies...
>
> Alex
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2004 08:59:33 -0400
> From: "Jenni" <jenni at beethoven.com>
> Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH-- stones or uti?
> To: "gpdd" <Gpdd at gpdd.org>, "Leah McNeil" <lconsuela at yahoo.com>
> Message-ID: <002f01c477c7$643f16f0$c600a8c0 at jenni533bc8kft>
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>
> Hi Leah & Brownie Bear!!
>
> Leah, I'm nervous about Beethoven right now.  After all the years
> of reading
> about the stone issue with so many piggies on the GPDD...I've always felt
> comfortable about my vet, but I'm so nervous now...
>
> Beethoven is squeaking when he's peeing.  It's been going on for
> over a week
> now.
> Started last Thur., our vet is "popular" so couldn't get him in on appt.
> until whee sneaked him in with Mr.Whiskers, our rat's, appt (he's being
> treated VERY successfully by the same vet now) on Tue. last wheek.
>
> Since Beethoven's urine doesn't appear to have blood in it, the
> vet said he
> doesn't want to put him on antibiotics for an UTI because he said it can
> really screw up his intestinal flora (if it's just crystals, an antibiotic
> wouldn't help anyway would it?)...he didn't actually test the
> urine...I told
> him I was concerned it was crystals or stones...he palpated his abdomen
> really carefully and said his kidneys were not causing any discomfort so
> that was good.  Beethoven managed to pee right before the vet
> came in to the
> room, of course, so his bladder was probably empty then.
>
> I showed him some cranberry stuff I had been giving to him in
> case it was a
> UTI, he said to keep giving it...but if it's crystals perhaps instead of
> UTI, cranberry won't help, I think from my reading...I quit giving it a
> couple days ago.  Want to try something else.  Think I remember reading
> something about Polycitra, anyone have any info?  I have access
> to it if it
> can help.  (I work in a hospital pharmacy.)
>
> He didn't suggest x-rays, and I didn't ask about it, I guess I just wanted
> it to all go away...but Beethoven is still squeeking and it's Sunday.  I
> don't know what to do.  He's still eating and purring, etc.  but
> it seems to
> me that he mostly wants to eat hay and veggies only and doesn't seem to be
> eating his Cavy Cuisine pellets.  I used to have to refill every day!  Now
> he's not eating them, but at least he's still eating hay, etc. But it's a
> behavior change that's got me on alert.  His urine does smell strong.
>
> I printed out a short "article" about doing xrays without anaesthetic from
> CCT, should I get xrays?!  What is that herb that Brownie Bear is
> recommending?  And how do you give it?  I'm also considering that "barley
> water" treatment Peter Gurney talks about.  Maybe I'll e-mail him
> also...Was
> BB on an antibiotic?
>
> I've been thinking about ordering Critical Care to have "on hand
> in case of
> emergency" for awhile, since Beethoven is now 4 years old...by
> the time they
> get sick, too late to order and get it quickly enough!  Now this is going
> on...he's still feeling well, but I don't want to give him a
> chance to "turn
> the corner" and go downhill before I treat him
> aggressively...then again, I
> don't want to do the wrong thing and bring on a condition by
> jumping the gun
> and doing something that isn't neccessary...
>
> I haven't wanted to share my worry with Joe, because Mr.Whiskers
> is finally
> coming along so great with his inner-ear infection (whee thought he was
> going to die, but now a full recovery seems very possible).
> Whee've been so
> stressed over that, and now this. If Beethoven starts to "look" sick, I'm
> going to freak out.  I want to make progress NOW before it
> becomes a life or
> death issue!  I read ALL the what-if letters and I don't want to be the
> next.
>
> Well, sorry about rambling on...I wanted to write to you right
> away, because
> I'm hoping to act on this today, while I have the day off and
> time to figure
> out what to do.  I think I'll start to gather information also to
> print out
> and take with me to the vet...I'll call to make an appt.
> tomorrow, hopefully
> he can be seen this wheek.  This is the ONLY vet in this area that knows
> anything about guineas and small animals.
>
> I can't just sit and do nothing and wait to see what's going to
> happen...he's still squeeking.  I'm sending this to the GPDD
> also, Leah.  I
> know this subject has come up over and over on the digest...I should have
> saved all the "advice" over the years!
>
> Any advice and personal experiences VERY welcome!!!  Please feel
> welcome to
> send directly to my e-mail address!  I will be monitoring my mail
> throughout
> the day!
>
> Thank you everyone...you guys know how much whee love our piggys...
>
>                                           Jenni & Beethoven
>
> p.s.  If you missed our album release announcement,  check out the band's
> website and song at:  www.jeffthewebguy.com/beethoven
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2004 09:19:40 -0400
> From: "MICHAEL LABBATE" <labbatesms at msn.com>
> Subject: Re: [Gpdd] ANNOUNCEMENT piggies need new home
> To: "*Guinea Pig Daily Digest" <gpdd at gpdd.org>
> Message-ID: <BAY4-DAV14KZuNhwn0d0006b5e4 at hotmail.com>
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>
> Hi Mary!  Can I ask where you bought the cage that folds up?
> I've only taken my piggies outside a few times, but they seem SO
> scared from all the sounds outside.
>
> I'm always amazed at the pictures from the Pignics -- they
> piggies seem to be enjoying the outdoors.  Mine just huddle
> together when they are outside.
>
> Steph
> Patches, Percy and Scamp
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2004 09:44:11 -0400
> From: "MICHAEL LABBATE" <labbatesms at msn.com>
> Subject: [Gpdd] [misc] Beanie Baby g.p. "Twitch"
> To: "Gpdd" <Gpdd at gpdd.org>
> Message-ID: <BAY4-DAV142Zu3XLIoD0006b666 at hotmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> I just received my BB g.p. that I purchased from E-bay in the
> mail yesterday.  It's very cute!  I'm so excited that Ty fin-ally
> came out with a guinea pig.
>
> Steph
> Patches, Percy and Scamp
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2004 11:08:36 EDT
> From: DL1Bossfan at aol.com
> Subject: [Gpdd] [CARE]Shelters, Free Adds, and Teeth
> To: gpdd at gpdd.org
> Message-ID: <a9.5dd04f44.2e3e6174 at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> Hi Friends!
> Hope this finds everyone "wheeking" happily.  I have 3 things to
> cover, I'll
> try to keep it as short as possible. 1. Yesterday, I called the
> local humane
> society to see if they had any piggies available, and low and
> behold they did.
> (a male)  I grabbed my carrier and off I went.  When I got there
> (it's about a
> 15 min. drive), I went to the "CAT" room (yes, thats where they
> keep those
> piggies - even though I have vented my feelings), and immediately
> found him.  He
> was beautiful and for those of you who have seen pigtures of Leah's "Miss
> Brownie Bear", his color and markings were similar.  Anyway, when
> I went in I had
> noticed that the adoption lady was busy with a young girl & her
> mother, so I
> talked to my new friend and held him.  All of a sudden, the young
> girl runs
> out of the room and says "he's mine and we're taking him home".
> My heart sank!
> I was too late.  I asked the girl if she had ever had piggies
> before, and she
> said no.  I even had to put him in their container because they
> were afraid
> to handle him!  I did the best I could to give her a crash course
> in taking
> care of the little fellow, but the mother said they had lots of
> animals and knew
> what to do.  It seem to me that the shelter worker should have
> said something,
> but I guess they can't or won't.  I am not a real quick thinker,
> but on the
> way home I scolded myself thinking that maybe I should have
> offered to buy him
> from his "new" owners.  I thought about him all night, and put him in my
> prayers.  Maybe he will be okay - I just had my doubts.  I did
> however put my name
> on a list to contact when they got some more piggies in.  I tried
> doing that
> when I adopted G.I. Joe from there in April, but was told there
> was no such
> list.  Apparently there is now!  2. Please, is there someone out
> there that can
> fill me in on the dangers of getting a guinea pig out of the paper that
> advertises "FREE TO A GOOD HOME"?  I think this was discussed a
> while back on the
> digest, but I only caught "tail end" comments.  3.  Also, please
> help me out with
> how to check for teeth problems. ( I've read of people having
> problems with
> their g.p.'s teeth lately.)  Is this something only the vet can
> do?, or are
> there some preventive steps you can take to insure that your
> cavies teeth are
> o.k.?  Hope this wasn't too long, and thanks to all of you for
> your postings.  I
> really learn alot through this wonderful site!
> Piggy kisses to all!  Donna, Spike, and G.I. Joe
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2004 08:38:25 -0700 (PDT)
> From: alicia rogers <aliciac.rogers at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: [Gpdd] Health - update on Trix
> To: Guinea Pig Daily Digest <gpdd at gpdd.org>
> Message-ID: <20040801153825.45959.qmail at web81305.mail.yahoo.com>
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>
> Hello everybody --  I'm updating you all about Trix (who was
> rescued from the SPCA about a month ago) and is now recovering
> from being neutered.  Many of you wrote to me about your
> experiences, I cannot thank those who answered enough.   Anyway,
> Trix had his surgery this past Friday morning.  I was very
> nervous about leaving him, but my sister "babysat" me all day
> until it was time to pick him up; she kept me busy so I didn't
> sit around thinking and making things worse.  When the kids and I
> went in to get him, he was all wrapped up in a towel and
> obviously a bit drowsy, but the vet said he did very well.  As
> soon as I put him into his travel cage, he began to munch on the
> hay - I knew he would be OK.  We went home with pain meds, but I
> only gave it to him three times;  this morning he is running
> around almost like nothing happened.  He can't seem to get enough
> greens and carrots, and when I filled up his hay rack, he
> literally pounced at it.
>
> I have expanded my guinea cage now to a 2 1/2 split level so Coco
> Puff and Trix can each have their own space.  Next month I plan
> to build in a ramp so they can gradually begin to visit and get
> to know each other.  Again, thanks to everyone who responded with
> great advice on how to get them together later on.
>
> Guinea fever is catching - my niece, my sister and I recently
> traveled to Dallas to adopt two girl pigs from Texas Rustlers
> Guinea Pig Rescue (4 hours each way for us).  We have built a
> huge cage for them and they are settling in nicely.  They are
> supposed to belong to my niece, but I think her mom is getting
> pretty attached ( - :
>
> Thanks to you all from Alicia, Coco Puff and Trix
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2004 13:18:28 -0400
> From: <truejedi at bellsouth.net>
> Subject: [Gpdd] [Misc]  updates
> To: <Gpdd at gpdd.org>
> Message-ID:
>
> <20040801171828.CYHB1721.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net at mail.bellsouth.net>
>
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>
>  I just want to thank everyone again for all the messages I have
> received about Motah.  You all are so caring and so encouraging.
> I know you really really care for these piggies and for their
> slaves also.  The messages of comfort and encouragement I have
> received these past few days is what has helped me the most.  You
> all are the best and your piggies are soooo lucky to have you as
> thier slaves.  You all are the best and thank you again!
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2004 15:18:29 -0400
> From: "Amy" <amomsince93 at comcast.net>
> Subject: [Gpdd] [MISC]  New to GPDD
> To: <gpdd at gpdd.org>
> Message-ID: <000001c477fc$54025740$5a60f445 at zbmszdwe51uv2er>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I just wanted to introduce myself  and my piggies.  My name is Amy and I
> live in Pennsylvania.   I have 2 male piggies, Walter and Albert.
>  Walter we
> got from a pet store around Christmas last year and he is about 10 months
> old now.  Albert we got almost a month ago from the same pet store but he
> was brought in by a family that could no longer keep him.  They
> seem to get
> along most of the time but they do wrestle to the point where fur
> is flying.
>
>
>
>
> If anyone has any advice on what I might do to help them get along all the
> time I would sure appreciate it.   I have no idea how old Albert
> is or what
> his life was like with his other family, but he is definitely more curious
> then Walter.  They have the run of the living room most of the time and
> Walter will find a spot and lie down while Albert is always has his nose
> into something.
>
>
>
> Anyway, Hi to all and I look forward to reading your messages and getting
> some helpful tips.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2004 16:20:35 -0400
> From: "Selena S." <fuzzyrainbow at shaw.ca>
> Subject: [Gpdd] {HEALTH} Muffin congested?
> To: GUINEA PIG MAIL <gpdd at gpdd.org>
> Cc: GUINEA PIG MAIL #2 <guineapiggers at groups.aol.com>
> Message-ID: <000701c47805$011c7bb0$9b2f4c18 at simonettcmzi9p>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
>
> Today Muffin was making a strange grunty noise like she was congested as I
> approached the cage.  Kinda like "unnntunnnt" almost like her happy grunty
> noise except it sounded like she had a cold.  She did it once
> yesterday and
> twice today, and I'm wondering if I should take the little booger to the
> vet?
> *******
> Selena Simonetti
> fuzzyrainbow at shaw.ca
> "MAIRI'S MAGIC"- Release date March, 2006
> from Wings E-Press: http://www.wings-press.com/
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2004 19:08:19 EDT
> From: dardeb206 at aol.com
> Subject: [Gpdd] [CARE] Shaving Clarification
> To: gpdd at gpdd.org
> Message-ID: <a9.5dd65da2.2e3ed1e3 at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> Hello Fellow Slaves,
> My angel & I have been catching up on digests. Shortly I will be going on
> Holidays for 10 days and have my Parents taking care of My LIttle
> Ginger Girl. I
> will miss her terribly for all the reasons that you would miss
> yours. I'll be
> making the 'List' of Daily to-dos and of course this will include spot
> cleaning and thoroughly cleaning my Sweethearts Coroplast cage.
> Heres my question
> because I can never remember which shavings are good and which are bad.
> I use Carefresh mostly-which I believe to be good.
> Is it pine or cedar that is not good for their breathing?? I
> would not want
> any harm to come to my angel as she'll already think i'VE  abandoned
> her......sniff.
> I'll have to bring her back a special souveneir such as an exta
> special salt
> lick.
> P.s. I keep seeing other guinea pigs and wondering if it would be
> the best
> thing to do and get her a companion or not. I pose all to inform
> me of any pros
> and cons on having 2 females and which shavings,e tc are best for
> our buddies.
>
> Sincere Thanks,
>
>  Servant Deb & 'Ginger'
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2004 16:41:53 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "petunia_loo at yahoo.com" <petunia_loo at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Gpdd] [MISC] <re: piggy patrol>
> To: gpdd at gpdd.org
> Message-ID: <20040801234153.3373.qmail at web60501.mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> GO GIRL!!!! That was awesome. I can't imagine how long
> the water bottle must have gone uncleaned for green
> slime to build up! I can't even imagine. I'm very glad
> that you are filing a complaint about it. Hopefully
> the authorities will check it out and take notice of
> the store. The more people speak up against animal
> cruelty, the less easy it will become to get away with
> abuse. I'd go shopping with you anyday! ;)
> Wheeeeks,
> Lauren, Piglet and Pooh
>
> =====
> Tens of millions of healthy companion animals are euthanized each
> year in the U.S. Adopt a homeless pet. Have your pets spayed and neutered.
>
> Join the Guinea Pig Rescue Transport Group!
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2004 19:58:23 -0400
> From: Carol S <guineapiglover at optonline.net>
> Subject: [Gpdd] [HEALTH] George the GP needs your prayers and well
> 	wishes!
> To: Gpdd at gpdd.org
> Message-ID: <000901c47823$6db3b9a0$703f5243 at z8y4z4>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> To all GPD Digesters:
>
> Today,  George the GP, had to go to the hospital. His Mom and Dad
> (Joseph C.
> Petrillo) would appreciate all your prayers and well wishes for a speedy
> recovery. He has been diagnosed with pneumonia and an enlarged
> heart. George
> seemed to be doing quite well and not showing any symptoms so
> this was quite
> a shock to us all.
>
> He is eating and appears to be doing well so far. He is getting oxygen,
> lasix and an antibiotic. He will be picked up by his parents in
> the morning
> and taken to his own vet so keep him in your thoughts and prayers.
>
> Thank you,
> Carol and the girls (Angel who is George's wife, Sophie and Elsie)
>
>
>
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> >    1. [HEALTH] RE: My piggie is losing hair & changing color
> >       (Dawnda Stricklen)
> >    2. Rainbow Bridge - Re: Timothy (Dawnda Stricklen)
> >    3. [Rescue] rescue transport (Karen Brown)
> >    4. [CARE]what veggies and fruits? (Megan McCullough)
> >    5. [ANNOUNCE] New Piggie Babies!!! (TyTash at aol.com)
> >    6. [MISC] Piggy Patrol (Rebecca Jones)
> >    7. Behavior:[Wheat Thins] (seth at horusandseth.com)
> >    8. [SILLY] My piggie!! (petunia_loo at yahoo.com)
> >    9. [SILLY] My piggie!! (petunia_loo at yahoo.com)
> >   10. Miscellaneous Re: Rainbow Bridge-Timothy (Guineapigfilms at aol.com)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 09:49:44 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Dawnda Stricklen <dawndastricklen at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: [Gpdd] [HEALTH] RE: My piggie is losing hair & changing color
> > To: Gpdd at gpdd.org
> > Message-ID: <20040731164944.49910.qmail at web52308.mail.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > Hello
> >
> > Your piggie may just be getting older. My Tasha's coat
> > didn't look as full and she changed from white to gray
> > in spots. I know other colored pig change color as
> > they grow older too.
> >
> > Dawnda
> >
> > =====
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> > ------------------------------
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 10:01:56 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Dawnda Stricklen <dawndastricklen at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: [Gpdd] Rainbow Bridge - Re: Timothy
> > To: Gpdd at gpdd.org
> > Message-ID: <20040731170156.6305.qmail at web52307.mail.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > Hello Julia
> >
> > I was so sorry to hear about Timothy. It is such a
> > hard dicision to decide whether to have surgery done
> > or not. We never know what the outcome will be. You
> > don't know what the outcome would have been if you had
> > left the lumps either. They may have kept growing and
> > had to have surgery later and it would have been a
> > much worse surgery. He could have been hiding any pain
> > the lumps were causing him too. They are very good at
> > that.
> > I felt the same way when I had the mammary gland tumor
> > taken out of Sabrina. Luckily, she make it through.
> > She had a huge incision and they said the tumor was
> > going to press on her bladder and cause pain. The
> > tumors in Timothy would probably have cause pain do to
> > their size sooner or later too.
> > I know you feel awful, but don't be too hard on
> > yourself. You were trying to help him.
> >
> > Dawnda
> >
> > =====
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> >
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 07:20:52 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Karen Brown <shanclan2003 at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: [Gpdd] [Rescue] rescue transport
> > To: petunia_loo at yahoo.com
> > Cc: gpdd at gpdd.org
> > Message-ID: <20040731142052.99991.qmail at web53902.mail.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > Hi Lauren,
> >
> > I would like to organize a rescue railroad in New
> > England after a dump earlier this month of 40+ cavies
> > at the Concord NH SPCA.
> >
> > I've been out of the rescue loop for a while so I
> > don't know if there are any other regional railroads
> > in place.
> >
> > =====
> > Karen J. Brown
> > gentle hands & kindly words petsitting
> >
> >
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> > Message: 4
> > Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 08:17:24 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Megan McCullough <duckie_3114 at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: [Gpdd] [CARE]what veggies and fruits?
> > To: gpdd at gpdd.org
> > Message-ID: <20040731151724.17592.qmail at web60802.mail.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I was just wondering what veggies and fruits are best for Guinea Pigs?
> > I feed CoCo lettuce and grapes, but i was wondering if i could
> > feed her strawberrys and what other veggies and fruits everyone
> > else uses.
> > Thanks,
> > Meg and CoCo
> > please respond to my post at my email address,
> > duckie_3114 at yahoo.com, because I may not see your responce if you post.
> > Thank-you for your understanding!
> >
> >
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> > Message: 5
> > Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 16:19:41 EDT
> > From: TyTash at aol.com
> > Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCE] New Piggie Babies!!!
> > To: gpdd at gpdd.org
> > Message-ID: <dc.10a182c9.2e3d58dd at aol.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
> >
> > Hello everyone!! I'm so excited!! The moma guinea pig where i
> > work finally
> > had 3 big beautiful babies!!!! she had been looking like she was
> > ready to pop
> > for the past few weeks, and i've been counting down the days!!!
> > when i got to
> > work, i looked in her cage and bam! there they were, there was
> > still fresh blood
> > so i was assuming that she had them real early this morning or late last
> > night, but anyways, im gonna name them as soon as i get to tell therre
> > personalities a little more since they can't be sold for a couple
> > months anyways!!! ahh i
> > love them already im soo happpy... and other good news, 3 of
> the 4 guinea
> > pigs that the humane society got sold to good homes too, so now
> > we have 2 rough
> > haired guys plus moma and the new babies!! well, keep in touch,
> > have a great
> > day everyone and God bless
> >
> > Tasha
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 21:33:23 +0100 (BST)
> > From: Rebecca Jones <rj1571 at yahoo.co.uk>
> > Subject: [Gpdd] [MISC] Piggy Patrol
> > To: Gpdd at gpdd.org
> > Message-ID: <20040731203323.68746.qmail at web25110.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> >
> > Hi All
> >
> > I am so annoyed at the moment that I wanted to share with people
> > who would understand why.
> >
> > I went to our local garden centre today to buy some pet supplies.
> >  They have good hay and have recently started selling guinea
> > pigs, rabbits and hamsters.  While I'm there I always go round
> > and check on the animals.  They have some in big runs and the
> > last time I was there they had a guinea pig in one of thos big
> > plastic indoor hutches, the ones with the metal bars on top.
> > Well, I went to check and the plastic hutch appeared to be empty,
> > there was hay in, but the food bowl was almost empty and the
> > water bottle was lying on the floor half filled with green slime.
> >  I was about to walk away when I heard the hay move and I
> > realised there was a guinea pig in there.  I looked back at the
> > slime filled waterbottle horrified.  My blood boiled.  I opened
> > up the hutch, got the water bottle out and marched to the
> > checkout.  I told the man at the desk who said he would get it
> > sorted.  I told him that wasn't the point, the point was that
> > whoever was supposed to be looking after the pets hadn't
> >  been near that hutch for days.  You do not get water to turn to
> > green slime in a day and it was obvious that water bottle hadn't
> > been touched for best part of the week.  On that basis it was
> > unlikely that the poor creature had been fed either.  He agreed
> > about the slime and said that the person responsible would be
> reprimanded.
> >
> > I feel so angry about it.  I wanted to just scoop up the hutch
> > and animal and walk straight out with it.  Only my mother stopped
> > me doing it.  This is animal cruelty.  I work for our local
> > Council and I will be making an official complaint to the animal
> > welfare officer on Monday.  Shops have to have a license to sell
> > animals, I inetend to make sure it is not renewed!!
> >
> > Becuase I stormed out of that shop, I still needed pet supplies
> > so we went to another garden centre where they look after the
> > animals properly.  I was just looking at the guinea pig supplies
> > when in horror I spotted a large metal wheel, the kind with the
> > slatted surface which was emblazened with the words guinea pig
> > wheel!!  I'd just come out of one big row with the other shop and
> > didn't want to do it again, but I couldn't just leave it.  So,
> > politely, I approached one of the assistants and said that I had
> > just spotted this product and did she know that guinea pigs could
> > not use wheels as it could snap their backs, and also that NO
> > small animal should have a slatted wheel becuase they can get
> > their feet and tails broken in them.  Thankfully she was very
> > helpful, said they had told head office about this and had
> > relabled the remaining stock as hamster wheels.  I pointed out
> > the packaging saying guinea pig wheels and how innocent but
> > uninformed pet owners would presume they were safe.
> >  She then took all the packaging off them.
> >
> > I left feeling a little shaken by the afternoon, but happier that
> > hopefully I had saved at least one animal from suffering.
> >
> > Mom doesn't want to come shopping with me anymore:-)
> >
> > Beki
> > Faith, Hope and Charity
> >
> >
> >
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> > Message: 7
> > Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 17:31:31 -0400
> > From: seth at horusandseth.com
> > Subject: [Gpdd] Behavior:[Wheat Thins]
> > To: Gpdd at gpdd.org
> > Message-ID: <1091309491.410c0fb34bb17 at www.horusandseth.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > I haven't written in a while, but for those who remember Goofus
> > and Gallant,
> > they are doing quite well.  (Both had surgery in the last year --
> > living proof
> > that a top-notch vet can perform a hysterectomy on even a 4 year
> > old piggo.)
> > Goofus did something amusing lately.  He tends to beg for food
> > quite loudly and
> > will express dissatisfaction with substandard treats.  Recently,
> > he started
> > yelling and I had exhausted his entire treat stash.  I had been
> > enjoying some
> > Wheat Thins on the couch and in frustration I gave him one.  He
> > waved in high
> > and paraded around the cage before devouring it.  Gallant didn't
> > even want to
> > smell one.
> >
> > Hug em while you got em,
> > with healing wheeks,
> > MR
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 8
> > Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 22:17:10 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: "petunia_loo at yahoo.com" <petunia_loo at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: [Gpdd] [SILLY] My piggie!!
> > To: gpdd at gpdd.org
> > Message-ID: <20040801051710.29127.qmail at web60508.mail.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > Hi Susana and Speed,
> > Welcome to the GPDD! You will learn a lot here. Just
> > curious, do you call "Speed" "Speed" as in the English
> > word, or do you call him the Portuguese word for
> > speed?
> > I went to Portugal and Lisbon about a year ago and it
> > was very beautiful. I'm definitely going back there
> > some day. My great-grandparents were from Portugal,
> > from the Azores actually. My last name is Cordeiro, I
> > think that means sheep! Baaaaaa.
> > I hope you enjoy the GPDD.
> > ~Lauren, Piglet and Pooh Bear
> >
> > =====
> > Tens of millions of healthy companion animals are euthanized each
> > year in the U.S. Adopt a homeless pet. Have your pets spayed
> and neutered.
> >
> > Join the Guinea Pig Rescue Transport Group!
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gpig_transport
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > ------------------------------
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> > Message: 9
> > Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 22:22:46 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: "petunia_loo at yahoo.com" <petunia_loo at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: [Gpdd] [SILLY] My piggie!!
> > To: gpdd at gpdd.org
> > Message-ID: <20040801052246.54175.qmail at web60503.mail.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > Oh, sorry I forgot to mention of course, while I'm on
> > the topic of Portugal... I just started getting into
> > Portuguese Fado and it is so beautiful. Of course I
> > like Amalia Rodrigues, and one of my favorite artists
> > is Mariza, especially her album Fado Em Mim!!!
> > Everybody needs to go out and buy it because seriously
> > it is the best CD ever!!! I rank it up there with
> > Modest Mouse and Radiohead!!! Sorry if this is
> > completely off-topic.
> > Wheeeeks,
> > Lauren, Piglet and Pooh BEar
> >
> > =====
> > Tens of millions of healthy companion animals are euthanized each
> > year in the U.S. Adopt a homeless pet. Have your pets spayed
> and neutered.
> >
> > Join the Guinea Pig Rescue Transport Group!
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gpig_transport
> >
> >
> >
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 10
> > Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2004 02:04:04 EDT
> > From: Guineapigfilms at aol.com
> > Subject: [Gpdd] Miscellaneous Re: Rainbow Bridge-Timothy
> > To: Gpdd at gpdd.org, tabithaporter at yahoo.com
> > Message-ID: <75.2fb88804.2e3de1d4 at aol.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
> >
> > Dear Julia,
> >
> > I am so sorry for your loss.  Please believe me when I say you are only
> > guilty of loving your piggy so much that you wanted to do
> > everything possible for
> > him.  If Timothy had lumps under his chin the size of golf balls,
> > then the vet
> > was right---they would soon have affected him.  He might have
> died a very
> > prolonged, painful death if he hadn't had the surgery.  I feel
> > very strongly that
> > you did the right thing.  But I know how you are feeling right
> > now, because I
> > had a lovely pig named Waldo, who looked a bit like a very small Yorkie,
> > because of his long hair.  He was extremely intelligent and had loads of
> > personality, and used to run all around the kitchen, stopping to
> > drink water out of the
> > dogs' bowl.  He would come when you called his name.  He knew the words
> > "Mommy" and "Daddy" and if someone said "Go to Mommy," he would
> > run to my Mom.  He
> > was a very lively, extremely loveable little guy.  One day he
> > just stopped
> > eating.  My mom and I took him to the vet several times, and each
> > time we were t
> > old the same thing---that he was fine, his teeth were fine, he
> > was healthy, and
> > maybe we were imagining it.  (Our regular exotics vet was on
> > vacation, and her
> > partner---who seemed to know nothing about guinea pigs---was temporarily
> > taking her place.)  Finally we insisted that the vet do something
> > to help Waldo,
> > as he was losing weight.  The vet agreed to take X-rays, but said
> > he'd have to
> > anesthesize him.  He made us leave Waldo there while he put him
> > to sleep and
> > took the X-rays.  We came back later that day to pick Waldo up,
> > and he was
> > totally different---a very depressed pig.  I think he was missing
> > us so much and
> > was so scared to be away from his home that he just sort of gave
> > up on life.
> > The vet told us that the X-rays showed that Waldo was "fine" and
> > told us to
> > take him home and "give him some more hay to perk him up."  We
> > were extremely
> > upset, and very worried to see Waldo looking so miserable.  We
> > took him home, and
> > he didn't live for more than a few days.  (About a month later my mom
> > happened to see the "substitute vet" in the grocery store, and he
> > asked her quite
> > cheerily how Waldo was doing.  My mom told him that Waldo died.)
> > Of course, my
> > mom and I felt very guilty that we had taken Waldo to the vet in
> > the first
> > place.  We felt that maybe the stress of the anesthesia plus
> his weakened
> > condition and homesickness contributed to his death.  He was
> > never the same pig after
> > we brought him home from the vet after his X-rays.  But now
> even though I
> > still feel bad about it all, I know that we were trying to do the
> > best we could
> > for the little guy.  We KNEW he was sick.  We have had more than
> > 23 guinea pigs,
> > and we KNOW the signs of illness.  The vet dismissed our concern,
> > thinking we
> > were "pet hypochondriacs."  Julia, what I am trying to say is
> > that you will
> > realize, in time, that you were a wonderful "mom" to Timothy, and
> > that you did
> > everything you could for him.  It wasn't your fault that he got
> > the lumps.
> >
> > The other suggestion I have is about burying Timothy, as you said
> > you had to
> > move from your flat.  When one of our Yorkies died, we had him
> > cremated, as we
> > were living in a temporary apartment.  I made a ceramic urn for him in a
> > Crafts Class and we keep the urn in our kitchen (surrounded by
> > our Yorkie's
> > favorite toys and also a vase of artificial flowers).  We see it
> > all the time, and
> > keep Winston forever in our memory.  Our vet (a different one,
> > that we go to
> > with our dogs and cat, but who knows very little about guinea
> > pigs) had him
> > cremated by the Animal Shelter.  Again, I am so very sorry about
> > your loss, but
> > please find consolation in the fact that Timothy surely knew you
> > loved him and
> > cared for him the best you could.
> >
> > Love and (((HUGS)))xxx and Wheeeeeeeps,
> >
> > Alyssa and the guinea pig movie stars
> > http://hometown.aol.com/guineapigfilms
> >
> >
> >
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