[Gpdd] HEALTH: safety of toys

[Ruth Leibowitz]

Dear Megan --

Regarding the guinea pig "kebobs" -- I have one hanging in my little 
friends' cage -- I think some of those commercially available pieces are not 
good for the piggies because they have artificial color, etc.  However, in 
many pet stories you can purchase small pieces of wood, circles of salt, 
etc. that can go on the kebob that ARE good for them.  In response to one of 
the other recent posts about this, my piggies do not gnaw on the metal 
center -- you just need to figure out the best level to hang the thing so 
that the pieces you WANT them to gnaw on are at a good level for their 
little teeth.  I think it's particularly nice to put the wood pieces on 
there, since they can dangle off the cage bottom a little and therefore not 
get full of piggie poop.

Ruth

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>    1. MISC: thank you Secret Santa! (sarah stock)
>    2. Misc: Warm wishes (Carla Martinez)
>    3. HEALTH: safety of toys (Megan Gladney)
>    4. Re: HEalth Cages with grids (Alicia VanMaanen)
>    5. misc:picture (Pasmant, Dawna)
>    6. Re: care: lymphoma & prednisone (Carla Martinez)
>    7. (Misc) Funny animals pic (Stacy Harvey)
>    8. misc:Marchioro cages (aileen wilson)
>    9. (Care) Re: Blackberries (Stacy Harvey)
>   10. HEALTH - Carrot Tops (Janelle D. Smith)
>   11. SILLY---Thanks, Charlie! (Anita Fair)
>   12. Misc Thanks, Zephyr!!!! (shim1990 at adelphia.net)
>   13. MISC:  I did not receive GPDD #452 (Algernon07 at aol.com)
>   14. [BEHAVIOR] They're singing again! (Lori H.)
>   15. SILLY: Thank you, Little John and Fireball the Fat! (Tammy Rao)
>   16. [MISC] Why gp's don't live as long as people (Brenda)
>   17. [MISC] Holiday Exchange (Laura Carin)
>   18. MISCELLANEOUS:  PICTURE (Marsha Neely)
>   19. behavior singing piggies (Birdie Horn)
>   20. Misc. why gp's don't live as long as people (Birdie Horn)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 17:02:30 +0000
>From: sarahritz at comcast.net (sarah stock)
>Subject: [Gpdd] MISC: thank you Secret Santa!
>To: Gpdd at gpdd.org
>Message-ID:
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>Rocky, Ziggy, Hank, and I would like to give a big THANK YOU to Dee and 
>Juliet, Peaches & Pumpkin for the great holiday goodies!  The pigs wanted 
>to wait until x-mas to open them but their slave was impatient ;)  They 
>very much enjoyed their timothy hay "nest" of treats! We are saving the 
>others for later. (I loved the GP gear too--so cute!)
>
>Thank you Secret Santa!
>
>Sarah, Rocky, Ziggy & Hank
>
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>
>Message: 2
>Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 10:56:41 -0600
>From: "Carla Martinez" <cmartinez36 at houston.rr.com>
>Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: Warm wishes
>To: <Gpdd at gpdd.org>
>Message-ID: <000001c60586$5a40a3a0$6801a8c0 at AquaFluff>
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>
>
>Hello Wheekers!
>
>This time of year our thoughts turn to those who are dear to us.
>Snowball and Carla want you to know we think of you all *daily*. We are
>so grateful to you guys -- you have become such an important part of our
>lives for learning, understanding, caring and entertainment. We share
>your sadness during the hard times and we enjoy with you at the happy
>times.
>
>Now and always we wish you great friendships, guinea pig smiles, safety,
>health and compassionate knowledgeable veterinary care, great
>photographs, fresh and delicious foods, snuggly cuddles, clean cages,
>inspiring music, highspeed internet connections to find guinea pig info,
>powerful vacuums to pick up the hay, and the glow and joy in your
>piggies always. I'm sure we forgot some things but whatever it is you
>want, we wish you the best . . .
>
>Warm wishes and hugs,
>
>Snowball & Carla, ~with Snickers in our hearts~
>
>
>
>
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>
>Message: 3
>Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 17:35:15 +0000
>From: "Megan Gladney" <byrne51250 at hotmail.com>
>Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH: safety of toys
>To: gpdd at gpdd.org
>Message-ID: <BAY102-F31D7CB745B65A03C403519E3E0 at phx.gbl>
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>
>Okay all you piggies and piggie slaves - I've snuck away from my master for
>long enough to ask everyone a secret question. For Christmas, I heard that
>Santa was bringing Phylo a "guinea pig kabob" - which is basically a little
>metal rod you can spear pieces of veggies on and then you attach the little
>bell at the bottom to keep the treats from falling off, and then the whole
>deal gets attached to the side of the cage. I thought this would be a good
>idea as it would keep his fruit and veggie treats from getting underfoot on
>the bottom of his cage. My question concerns these little corn and carrot
>shaped wooden pieces that come with the toy - are they safe for piggies to
>chew on? I've seen piggies with little wooden hutches and they chew on them
>all the time and have had no problems... but I am always leary of
>store-bought treats and felt that, just in case, I'd better ask the group.
>It says they're great for piggie dental health... but then again, what
>company is going to say: "Hey! this could cause problems for your furbaby -
>please buy it anyway!" lol At any rate - I'd better get back to Prince 
>Phylo
>as he will soon suspect something is up. :P Hope all his piggie pals can
>keep his Christmas gift a secret!
>
>Thanks to all!
>
>Megan and Phylo
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 4
>Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 12:39:13 -0500
>From: "Alicia VanMaanen" <aliciavanmaanen at hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [Gpdd] HEalth Cages with grids
>To: gpdd at gpdd.org
>Message-ID: <BAY107-F29F57B3BCB6EDA55E5CF96B13E0 at phx.gbl>
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>Alge ~
>
>None of the cages made by Marchioro have grids on the bottoms unless you
>order one that was made for a rabbit. But I am sure that the grids could
>probably be taken out if that is the case. Most of their products have a
>solid bottom making it easy for clean up later. Anyways, things are great
>here and such. Good luck with the new cage and I am sure that it will be
>wonderful. Some day maybe I will make a C & C cage but not right now. I
>understand the space thing. Willie has a Tommy 120 Marchioro cage and has a
>fiddle stick hut large in there a litter box which gets used occassionally,
>a large piggie loo and sometimes I think that is to much for his big cage
>but I guess if I were to add other things he wouldn't have room to popcorn
>in the morning like he loves to do and the piggie loo usually gets moved 
>out
>of the way so he can do that successfully. Sorry  about your non-GP 
>friendly
>cat. I am sure that was geared towards our household with our 3 cats that
>don't bother the piggie at all and would with the one that will actually
>supervise Willie during floor time and such.
>
>Good luck!! Sailor Willie & Alicia
>
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>
>Message: 5
>Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 09:47:07 -0800
>From: "Pasmant, Dawna" <DawnaP at Scosche.com>
>Subject: [Gpdd] misc:picture
>To: "'Gpdd at gpdd.org'" <Gpdd at gpdd.org>
>Message-ID: <41D066D282B0594CAA37918278F159C42FDA59 at global>
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>
>Hi everyone.  Merry Christmas to all.  I do believe that the little critter
>in the stocking is a prairie dog.  And I agree it does look quite
>uncomfortable.
>BooBooBearHare sends her man Willie tons of love and is popcorning with joy
>knowing that Willie is her one and only true guinea love.  She is glad
>Willie liked the snugsack she made for him with her own little paws.  Of
>course momma slave helped.  Fugly and Boo wish everyone the bestest
>Christmas ever.  May the day bring joy and good health to all.  May the 
>Lord
>bless everyone and bring about healing miracles that only He can do.  Fugly
>also wants Bert to know she loves him tons.  D
>
>Best Regards,
>Dawna Pasmant
>Scosche Industries
>1-800-363-4490 Ext 115
>dawnap at scosche.com
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 6
>Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 11:40:44 -0600
>From: "Carla Martinez" <cmartinez36 at houston.rr.com>
>Subject: Re: [Gpdd] care: lymphoma & prednisone
>To: <Gpdd at gpdd.org>
>Message-ID: <002501c6058c$8138c720$6801a8c0 at AquaFluff>
>Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
>
>
>Sandi,  In the last six months I have had a couple of situations that
>caused me to reply to your question. One was that I found a couple of
>lumps near the nipples or belly of my silkie pig Snickers. I got him
>checked right away and the vet did fine needle aspirations and sent the
>tissue off to a diagnostic lab to see whether they were cancerous.
>
>While waiting for the results I looked up info on Peter Gurney's
>website. He said that cancer in guinea pigs is very rare. As we later
>discovered Snickers' lumps were not cancerous either. But first the lab
>results came back inconclusive. The vet said it is difficult to get
>enough tissue to make a proper diagnosis. So that leads me to ask if
>your vet is confident in the diagnosis.
>
>Secondly about prednisone. I found some other internet info for my other
>piggie Snowball who has teeth problems. This was someone in the UK who
>recommended treating with prednisone. I forgot how that related to
>malocclusion, but somehow it did. So I asked my exotics specialist about
>the use of prednisone. And boy did she have reasons *not* to use it. I
>am in no way qualified to have a medical opinion myself, and that
>doesn't mean it is always wrong, but just to let you be aware of the
>risks my vet cited.
>
>She said of all small animals, the ones she least liked the use of
>steroids for is guinea pigs. I think the worst thing she cited was that
>it lowers their resistance to infections, and cumulatively becomes more
>risky the longer you use it. There were other things she said which I
>don't recall, so if you haven't already done it, ask your vet about how
>guinea pigs react to steroids . Wishing you the best in treating your
>piggie.
>
>Carla, Snickers and Snowball
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 7
>Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 11:11:59 -0800 (PST)
>From: Stacy Harvey <ckrtsqrl2000 at yahoo.com>
>Subject: [Gpdd] (Misc) Funny animals pic
>To: gpdd at gpdd.org
>Message-ID: <20051220191159.34689.qmail at web53013.mail.yahoo.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
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>Birdie,
>   It looks like a Prairie Dog in the picture. You're right, though--it 
>doesn't look very comfortable!
>
>   Stacy and the Squee Squad
>
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>
>Message: 8
>Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 11:12:30 -0800 (PST)
>From: aileen wilson <adw267 at yahoo.com>
>Subject: [Gpdd] misc:Marchioro cages
>To: gpdd at gpdd.org
>Message-ID: <20051220191230.22104.qmail at web37115.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
>Alge: The marchioro cage Bert has is a large one(Tommy 102K) and it
>   had a plastic bottom with high sides, keeps every thing(like poop and 
>hay) inside really well. You can also buy stands for them from the Critter 
>Store on-line that have a shelf on the bottom for supplies.
>   Birdie: Bert says that is a Prairie Dog, his fingers are too long to be 
>a piggie and I think his nose is rather too pointed but Bert and I could 
>both be wrong!!
>   Some one else asked about Critter Berries, that is the only treat that 
>Bert will always take. I have always wondered if they might be good for 
>them because of being made out of cranberries, which are good to cure and 
>prevent bladder infections. Any one know??
>   Also our sincere sympathy to everyone who has lost a piggie, especially 
>this month which should be the happiest of all months. Our piggies are 
>gifts and if we can give them a happy life for how ever long they are with 
>us, then we have done our job well.
>   Merry Christmas to all from Bert and Aileen
>
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>------------------------------
>
>Message: 9
>Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 11:21:22 -0800 (PST)
>From: Stacy Harvey <ckrtsqrl2000 at yahoo.com>
>Subject: [Gpdd] (Care) Re: Blackberries
>To: GPDD <gpdd at gpdd.org>
>Message-ID: <20051220192122.34769.qmail at web53011.mail.yahoo.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
>Thanks to all who wrote about feeding piggies blackberries. I feel better 
>knowing they are a safe treat and I got a kick out of all the purple 
>mouths! My pigs weren't very receptive at first (they are always suspicious 
>of new foods, as if they think Mama Slave is trying to poison them!) but 
>then they decided that those bumpy purple things tasted pretty good.
>
>   I forget who asked about living somewhere that I was able to pick 
>blackberries in the winter...unfortunately, I live in Maryland where it's 
>REALLY cold right now. I "picked" the blackberries up at the grocery store 
>: )  I can't imagine how devoted slaves got treats for their piggies in the 
>days before refrigerated shipping trucks!
>
>   Wheeks,
>   Stacy and the Squee Squad
>
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>
>Message: 10
>Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 11:38:27 -0800
>From: "Janelle D. Smith" <janelle300 at worldnet.att.net>
>Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH - Carrot Tops
>To: <Gpdd at gpdd.org>
>Message-ID: <mailman.2.1135184528.29750.gpdd_gpdd.org at gpdd.org>
>Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
>
>Hi Evelyn,  I read somewhere (of course, now I can't find it!) that carrot
>tops (the green parts) were NOT good for gp's that have a tendency to
>develop bladder stones.  I was horrified because I used to have everyone,
>who had a garden, save them for my piggies.  And I had 2 piggies that had
>bladder stones! Arrrggg!
>
>I thought they would be really good for piggies!
>
>Janelle
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 11
>Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 15:48:55 -0500
>From: "Anita Fair" <anifair at comcast.net>
>Subject: [Gpdd] SILLY---Thanks, Charlie!
>To: <gpdd at gpdd.org>
>Message-ID: <006801c605a6$cc3d7e90$0200a8c0 at PENGUIN>
>Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>Beanie would like to thank Charlie and his Mom Alge for the wonderful 
>holiday treats!
>I have already enjoyed MY treats, and Beanie is thrilled with his mirror 
>and Tasty Toons feed dish.
>We also loved the card and button!
>Thanks again---have a great holiday!
>Anita & Beanie (I'm a girl!)
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 12
>Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 18:03:57 -0500
>From: shim1990 at adelphia.net
>Subject: [Gpdd] Misc Thanks, Zephyr!!!!
>To: Gpdd at gpdd.org
>Message-ID: <20091501.1135119837622.JavaMail.root at web23>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
>--Hey Zephyr!
>Wow!  Thanks so much for being my Secret Santa!  I LOVE the goodies! I'm 
>eating my fill of the Healthy Toppings, then sharing with the other Haypile 
>Honeys when I get my fill.  I love tossing the Crispy Crops around!!!  Best 
>of all is the photo of you, which Mom has right next to the cage so I can 
>see what a handsome guy you are...*wink*wink*
>Mom is alot more selfish than I am.  She isn't sharing those chocolate 
>thingys!  She keeps saying "Yum yum".  Humans are so silly!
>Thanks to you and your slave, and Happy Holidays!!
>xxoo Corkster
>   Judi and the Haypile Honeys
>www.art4animals.blinkz.com/
>
>
>
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>
>Message: 13
>Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 18:45:31 EST
>From: Algernon07 at aol.com
>Subject: [Gpdd] MISC:  I did not receive GPDD #452
>To: Gpdd at gpdd.org
>Message-ID: <23f.4113777.30d9f19b at aol.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
>Hi
>           Does anyone have a #452 GPDD that they might forward on to me. I 
>am
>getting almost all my GPDDs now which is great, but this one missed me.
>Thanks!
>
>Alge   (and The Jolly Rodents   <----   who like to keep up on things)
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 14
>Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 19:07:18 -0600
>From: "Lori H." <mopar28m at msn.com>
>Subject: [Gpdd] [BEHAVIOR] They're singing again!
>To: <gpdd at gpdd.org>
>Message-ID: <BAY104-DAV94D1DBDB705DD7FF80A1EC3310 at phx.gbl>
>Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
>Hi everyone,
>
>My guinea pigs brought me a smile tonight.  I keep them in the dining room. 
>  All of a sudden they just started singing up a storm.  Its been about a 
>week since my sweet Christopher went to the bridge & they have been quiet 
>since that time.  But tonight, I don't know what set them off but they 
>started wheeking & whistling.  My 2 remaining girls started running hot 
>laps around their pen.  It was like "what in the world has brought this 
>one?"  I wasn't making any noises with plastic bags or anything like that, 
>I was just setting the table.
>
>
>Any ideas?
>
>Thanks for all the kinds words from everyone that emailed me personally.  I 
>have saved each & every email.
>
>Have a great wheek & a Happy Hanukkah to those who are keeping it.
>
>Lori
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 15
>Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 20:17:38 -0500
>From: Tammy Rao <cavymadness at comcast.net>
>Subject: [Gpdd] SILLY: Thank you, Little John and Fireball the Fat!
>To: Gpdd at gpdd.org
>Message-ID: <225CD22E-D148-4DDA-BF04-EAA00B1A19A6 at comcast.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
>
>The Madness is so happy with their box of goodies from their Secret
>Santa Piggies! Winnie was up as far as she could go on her hind legs,
>peeking over the partition to see what Titiania and Nutmeg were
>making such a fuss over. :) The little box that shall soon be munched
>to shreds is a definite hit!
>
>Mama Tammy loved the card and cute pen. Thank you! Hope you all have
>a wonderful holiday!
>
>Titania, Nutmeg, Olivia, Winnie and Gwinnie. :)
>
>
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>cavymadness.com
>making the world a nicer place...one guinea pig at a time.
>tammy at cavymadness.com
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 16
>Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 21:39:38 -0500
>From: "Brenda" <bunner77 at hotmail.com>
>Subject: [Gpdd] [MISC] Why gp's don't live as long as people
>To: <Gpdd at gpdd.org>
>Message-ID: <BAY107-DAV9BA7C91D78BBE795B4D95CF310 at phx.gbl>
>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>	reply-type=original
>
>Hi everyone,
>
>
>
>A good story that may make you cry but it is worth reading. This was a dog
>story but have replaced it with a guinea pig.
>
>
>
>Hope it helps everyone who is mourning right now.
>
>
>
>Brenda
>
>MT, Frasier and Boo
>
>http://www.dapigs77.blinkz.com/
>
>
>
>Why guinea pigs don't live as long as people
>
>
>
>Being a veterinarian, I had been called to examine a five-year-old guinea
>pig named Belker. The guinea pig's owners, Ron, his wife, Lisa, and
>
>their little boy, Shane, were all very attached to Belker and they were
>hoping for a miracle.
>
>
>
>I examined Belker and found he was dying of cancer. I told the family there
>were no miracles left for Belker, and offered to perform the
>
>euthanasia procedure for the guinea pig in their home. As we made
>arrangements, Ron and Lisa told me they thought it would be good for the
>
>four-year-old Shane to observe the procedure. They felt as though Shane
>might learn something from the experience.
>
>
>
>The next day, I felt the familiar catch in my throat as Belker's family
>surrounded him. Shane seemed so calm, petting the guinea pig for the
>
>last time, that I wondered if he understood what was going on.
>
>Within a few minutes, Belker slipped peacefully away. The little boy seemed
>to accept Belker's transition without any difficulty or confusion.
>
>We sat together for a while after Belker's death,  wondering aloud about 
>the
>sad fact that animal lives are shorter than human lives.
>
>
>
>Shane, who had been listening quietly, piped up, "I know why."
>
>
>
>Startled, we all turned to him. What came out of his mouth next stunned me.
>
>I'd never heard a more comforting explanation.
>
>
>He said, "People are born so that they can learn how to live a good life --
>like loving everybody all the time and being nice, right?"
>
>The four-year-old continued, "Well, guinea pigs already know how to do 
>that,
>so they don't have to stay as long."
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 17
>Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 20:20:09 -0800
>From: Laura Carin <lcarin at shaw.ca>
>Subject: [Gpdd] [MISC] Holiday Exchange
>To: gpdd at gpdd.org
>Message-ID: <001a01c605e5$d5299680$6401a8c0 at Lolita>
>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
>	reply-type=original
>
>Zephyr wants to send a giant thank you to Petunia (and Judi) for the
>wonderful presents he received today.  He was a naughty boy and insisted he
>couldn't wait for xmas.  He has already munched up all the yummy hay and he
>is very excited about the special toy.  It's hanging in his cage in his
>favorite spot...right near the cozy he sits on (instead of in) when he 
>wants
>to think of himself as royalty.  He doesn't understand why I won't put the
>cinnamon candles in his cage and why they aren't edible- as a lone piggy he
>hasn't quite figured out the concept of sharing!  He's asked me to put the
>postcards up where he can see them so he can dream of Petunia lounging
>around in Gloucester Massachusetts.  I'm taking the little red velvet
>stocking over to my Mom's house so it can be filled by Santa on Christmas
>Eve.  Thanks Petunia and Judi!!!!
>
>Laura and a very happy hay-filled Zephyr
>
>
>
>
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>
>Message: 18
>Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 22:22:46 -0600
>From: "Marsha Neely" <matilda at ptsi.net>
>Subject: [Gpdd] MISCELLANEOUS:  PICTURE
>To: <Gpdd at gpdd.org>
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>
>  Hi Birdie,
>
>  I think that's a prairie dog in the stocking.
>( http://www.cutefunnyanimals.com/openmefirst.shtml )
>  And, yes, it does look uncomfortable!
>
>  Marsha
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>Message: 19
>Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 20:32:09 -0800 (PST)
>From: Birdie Horn <birdlonglegs at yahoo.com>
>Subject: [Gpdd] behavior singing piggies
>To: "gpdd at gpdd.org" <gpdd at gpdd.org>
>Message-ID: <20051221043209.25732.qmail at web50508.mail.yahoo.com>
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>
>Lisa,
>   Do you suppose they were in morning out of
>   respect? They are very smart masters (don't
>   let them know but they are animals). Perhaps
>   you have started feeling better yourself and they
>   picked up on that fact. You proably getting back
>   to a more normal rutine and they might sence that
>   and they are being less behaved and getting back
>   to their normal selves. Just my guess, I know that
>   when we had dogs they would act more reserved
>   if they thought I was feeling sick or upset. Don't
>   tell the doggie world lovers but I think guinea pigs
>   are just as smart (maybe smarter -lol they don't have
>   go out side to potty when it's cold.)
>   Glad to know that things are getting back to normal
>   again.
>   Hugs and wheeps to all piggies and their slaves.
>
>   Birdie
>
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>Message: 20
>Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 20:39:15 -0800 (PST)
>From: Birdie Horn <birdlonglegs at yahoo.com>
>Subject: [Gpdd] Misc. why gp's don't live as long as people
>To: "gpdd at gpdd.org" <gpdd at gpdd.org>
>Message-ID: <20051221043915.21829.qmail at web50510.mail.yahoo.com>
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>
>Brenda,
>   Indeed that was a special story. How interesting
>   that the little boy said that people had to "learn how
>   to have a good life" but guinea pigs already knew.
>   It makes me wonder if that little boy will someday
>   grow up to be a leader in the world either in Politics,
>   Science, Math. It sounds that the parents wanted
>   their child to have a good background in life.
>   I think it was good insite on the parents part to
>   let the boy experience life at it is and not "protect"
>   him from it instead. I believe that if we grow up
>   with a better understanding of life, we become
>   more understanding in life.
>
>   Bless all piggies and slaves, and wishing
>   healing hugs and wheeps for all ill sick piggies
>   and their slaves.
>
>   GUINEA PIGS RULE!!!!
>
>   Birdie
>
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