[Gpdd] CARE: classroom pig
Laura Zambrano
l_zambrano at yahoo.com
Mon Jun 23 12:31:19 EDT 2008
Hello Piggy lovers:
Thank you guys for all your ideas and thoughts on what to do about Pickles in the classroom. It's really helpful to have this forum to go to. I don't know of any other people to talk to about piggies other than this group. Anyways, the last I heard on Friday was that the director was getting the rabbit a bigger cage and then handing down his old cage to Pickles the pig....which is great because it will be a very good size cage for him to be able to run around in. Another ally and I asked that the director bring him out for floor time. I took the opportunity to show her that he was popcorning and having a great time. I told her he has no room to do that in his current cage. I think she got the point and saw for herself which led to her decision to change the cage situation. I will let you all know what happens when I get there today. I will also print material out to give them on proper food and toys, etc. I'm also going to offer to bring him home for
the upcoming 3 day weekend. Thanks again for your input!!!
Laura in Austin, TX, USA
and Dolly the pig
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Today's Topics:
1. MISC: poor schoolroom guinea pig (Ruth Leibowitz)
2. MISC Classroom piggy (Penny Charlesworth)
3. virtual; camping (M)
4. Re: [Health] Balance (New Dominant II)
5. Health {rolled oats} (kaplans at peoplepc.com)
6. Re: HEalth {rolled oats} (Julie Juwles Johnson)
7. HEALTH Rolled Oats (Penny Charlesworth)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 00:42:41 -0500
From: Ruth Leibowitz <dr.leibq at hotmail.com>
Subject: [Gpdd] MISC: poor schoolroom guinea pig
To: <gpdd at gpdd.org>
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My heart goes out to this little guinea pig in the classroom. Is there someone
in authority who you could speak to about the values being taught to the
children if they are not being taught to properly care for the guinea pig?
>From an educational point of view, the school is missing an opportunity to use
the guinea pig as a vehicle for the children to learn empathy, to think about
what kind of creature a guinea pig is and what it needs to be happy, etc.
Could you provide written educational material about the care of guinea pigs --
some people just don't have a clue and are amenable when they are educated.
It sounds like maybe there is a power struggle between you and that particular
teacher -- perhaps providing written materials or even a nice children's
guinea pig book that can be read out loud in the classroom could help. Are
there other teachers or employees who are animal lovers there who could take up
the cause after you are gone? This sounds like a difficult situation -- and the
poor piggy ends up not having the life he could have because of it. This could
be such a great opportunity for education, if you or an ally there could figure
out a win-win strategy. Just some thoughts on the matter.
Ruth in Portland
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 09:49:28 +0100
From: "Penny Charlesworth" <piggyfriends at tesco.net>
Subject: [Gpdd] MISC Classroom piggy
To: <gpdd at gpdd.org>
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I am assuming that you are in the US from your post about the classroom piggy.
Here, in England, I would notify the RSPCA, who could send an inspector along
to the school, to ensure that the little fellow had adequate housing and that
he was being fed correctly. Maybe some of our American members can advise you
which agency you could contact for help.
Is there a more senior teacher to whom you could speak who might carry more
authority? Here it would be a headmaster/mistress but I don't know the
correct terminology for an American school. Could you send photos to a local
newspaper with the piggy's story without getting yourself in any trouble?
When my sons were at primary school ( 5 - 11 years ) it was decided by the
teachers that it would be a "good idea" to have some guinea pigs in
the school. My heart sank when my boys told me about them. The teacher in
charge of them obviously knew nothing about piggies other than you put them in
a hutch. There was a rota made with a list of which child was responsible for
the piggies that week and these poor piggies went home with whichever
child's mother had room for the hutch in her car.
Not being, as you might be, in a position to lose a job, I kicked up a fuss
over these piggies and the headmaster was willing for me to go along to the
school to give a little talk about guinea pig care. I tried to aim it both at
the children and the teachers who were more likely to take notice. I also made
sure that I turned up early every Friday to pignap the little ones and we also
cared for them over the school holidays. My sons took fresh veggies in for them
every day and I left a bale of hay by their hutch. To my sons, having lived in
my piggy sanctuary from birth, it was second nature to ensure that the water
bottle was filled and that the piggies had enough food.
When my youngest finally left the school, we had the piggies over the holiday
and no-one ever asked why we had not taken them back for the next school year.
I wish you good luck with your little piggy and hope that you are able to turn
his life around for the better.
Please keep us all informed as to your progress.
Penny and the Piggyfriends.
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 17:26:47 +0100
From: "M" <MFug at live.co.uk>
Subject: [Gpdd] virtual; camping
To: <gpdd at gpdd.org>
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Well Fugly has arrived home and typical boy that he is he has left me a pile of
washing and gone straight to bed!!
He was muttering something about Igor and a bet and grinning stupidly.
Ahh well I am just glad to have him home again
M
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 10:46:30 -0700
From: New Dominant II <me at buddies.org>
Subject: Re: [Gpdd] [Health] Balance
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Sarah, I know this is really a late reply ... but I'm way behind on my
guinea pig reading. Anyway, are you sure the infection is completely gone?
Ear infections are extremely stubborn to treat. That would be my first
concern, especially if she loses her sense of balance easily.
I have a pig who had a mild ear infection a few years ago (she's 4.5 years
old now). She still keeps her head tilted most of the time, though
sometimes she straightens it out when she relaxes. I have to be careful
when I pick her up or she may roll over if I don't set her down just right.
Also, she can't always keep her balance on her two hind legs, but she's
better at it now (I gently lift her front paws and get her to balance on her
hind legs). For the most part, though, she's like her old self.
on 3/7/08 1:26 PM, kaplans at peoplepc.com at kaplans at peoplepc.com wrote:
> I have a question. I have a piggy that when she was young she got a very
bad
> inner ear infection that caused damage to the brain stem. She has trouble
> finding her sense of balance and she can easily fall over. Well my
question
> is, is there any thing that I could do to help her? Maybe like therapy
that I
> could do at home. I don't have a lot of money that I can spend on a
vet or
> stuff like that. If you have any suggestions that would help please let me
> know.
>
> Sarah and her White One
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:07:05 -0700
From: <kaplans at peoplepc.com>
Subject: [Gpdd] Health {rolled oats}
To: "Guinea Pig Daily Digest" <gpdd at gpdd.org>
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Hi again,
Let me clarify that the rolled oats that I give my animals are not cooked or in
an oatmeal form. They are the kind that horses eat.
Sarah and the piggy gang.
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:04:24 +1000
From: "Julie Juwles Johnson" <juwles at bigpond.com>
Subject: Re: [Gpdd] HEalth {rolled oats}
To: <kaplans at peoplepc.com>, "Guinea Pig Daily Digest"
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Hi Sarah
I'm not sure what the reasoning is behind not giving rolled oats to
piggies, but I can add please DO NOT give brand to your piggies, in any form.
I lost a most beloved piggy last year to teething problems, he ended up not
being able to eat, needing his teeth trimmed weekly, being syringe fed for 7
months and with arthritis in the back molars - partly due to eating bran, which
apparently stops the piggy's bodies from absorbing calcium as a dental vet
told me. The piggies loved the bran, but there's no way bran comes within
a mile of my dear ones now.
I'd be interested to find out why not rolled oats, but I don't feed my
piggies that anyway - I won't risk it.
Cheers
Julie & her boys
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 10:06:16 +0100
From: "Penny Charlesworth" <piggyfriends at tesco.net>
Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH Rolled Oats
To: <gpdd at gpdd.org>
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The Piggyfriends have been given a dry mix of grains and grass pellets from
time immemorial. This contains oats but, as so many things are lost in
translation, this is what my oats look like.
They are flat, almost circular and are no more than 1/4 in. in diameter. When I
used to mix my own, the petshop labelled them as crushed oats.
So, if these oats are the ones in question, there is no reason no to use them.
My Rodentologists feed the same mix to their piggies and these are also used at
the CCT ( Cavy Hospital ).
This bowl of dried mix is only there as "something to eat between
meals" and not as a substitute for the copious quantities of veg that the
herd devour every day.
I can't comment on bran other than having a distant memory of it being
sprinkled on food by my granny and that's enough to put me off using it for
anything. Yuk.
Penny and the Piggyfriends.
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