[Gpdd] HEALTH: Hershey and Panacur

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In rabbits they honestly dont use Ivermectin for e.c., they just use it for 
mites, Penny's article points out that her Ivermectin bunnies never got 
e.c., but Hershey either already has it or its side effects from Flagyl, so 
go with the Panacur or the oxibendazole. I'm not saying Ivermectin cant 
work, most gp's get Ivermectin maybe that's why gp's rarely manifest it. I 
have never had a piggy without Ivermectin or with e.c.(that I know of see 
last nights article I wrote titled e.c. and I've had allot.  But she lives 
next to a Bunny they almost all have been exposed. If you want a more 
definitive answer get the e.c. titre test, it's not wholly definitive but 
shows exposure, if exposed an animal could get it.

Plus vets usually give it by shots that have to be repeated every 7 to 12 
days, do you want that many vet visits?   When this is over I would 
definitely treat her 3 to 4 times a year with ivermectin, meaning 3 or 4 
rounds of 2 shots each. That does keep the mites away and perhaps will 
prevent a reoccurrence. Penny's article does refer to g.ps.'s getting it, 
the etherbun board I was on talked about occasionally, its rare but it 
happens and your piggies lives with a bun, strong anecdotal evidence. 
besides the only other common thing that produces all those neurological 
symptoms is ear infection, and as far as I know Hershey has not gotten 
antibiotics, so why would she be cured, plus she had the stiff legs, which 
is the first symptom of e.c. not ear infection.  We have built a good case 
for e.c.even if its rare, rare things happen all the time.

You are paying the vet, she needs to listen to you, read the articles, esp 
since she's not a specialist, the stuff I' sent is from specialists. Take 
charge of her!!  That's the best thing that's learned from being a member of 
etherbun, vet management!!

Go get em!   Sandy

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> When the vet calls again, I'll request the specifics on using Panacur or 
> Ivermectin. I'll state that we've nothing to lose and ask her/him to humor 
> this troubled piggie mom. Two vets have told me that E cuniculi was 
> extremely unlikely, but Hershey's symptoms have been exremely confounding, 
> so why not, poor darling! My only concern is what effect these two worming 
> meds will have on her already troubled gut.
> I'll give them another call now.
> Thanks for all the research and advice.