Hi Audrey and everyone, Sorry for your loss, Audrey, of sweet Gordon. I have smuggled 4 piggie girls into a hotel room one time, that's what we do sometimes, so it appears. Wow eight and a half is old for piggies. I am sure he appreciated his long life with you. Namaste, love and light, Ellen, 10 precious precious pigs, and chin Foogleah (Fugly)