I was calling Carmel a he when she was a she Sorry about that! I have a male gerbil named Carmel so I just referred to Carmel as a male. Dawnda http://dawndasticklen.tripod.com/ http://www.pigs9.blinkz.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com