[Gpdd] HEALTH - overly smelly urine
grace ramp
gracetheface at yahoo.com
Tue Nov 14 16:37:26 EST 2006
Well, we took a urine sample to the vet over the weekend and she said that the white count was slightly elevated and there was a small amount of blood in the urine. She didn't think it was an infection because of the lack of bacteria, but she put Oreo on an antiboitic for 2 weeks. We are syringing her and she loves it. The vet said it might be stones, but she isn't sure yet. I'm just waiting to hear before I make any decisions. Oreo is eating, drinking, pooping and being a pretty contented pig so even if it is stones, I don't know if I'll subject her to surgery just yet. This is pretty funny. My niece had her at the vet and a tech came in with a scale to weigh Oreo (who is a portly pig). My niece said she didn't think Oreo would fit on the scale and the tech said But I was told to bring a rodent scale and then she took one look at Oreo and said "I'll get the cat scale". Poor Oreo. I've had to put her on a diet. No more grapes. Cut back on the pellets and lots
and lots of healthy greens. I'll let you know how she is doing and thanks for all the help.
Grace, Christine, Pork Chop and Oreo
Brooklyn
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Today's Topics:
1. MISC: Colorplast (Conklin Kacee)
2. [GPDD] Misc: Think of them as big piggies with long legs . .
. (Susi Eastin)
3. Re: [CARE] Vitamin C content (Penny Charlesworth)
4. RESCUE - part 3 of the never ending story (Penny Charlesworth)
5. Care: Special places and appliances for special piggies (staileys)
6. [Health] Vibrating piggies (Dr Kay Dudman)
7. Health. Keeping warm (A GREIG)
8. RAINBOW BRIDGE: condolences, Prospero (Cindy)
9. [care]bermuda and timothy hay (Rachel H)
10. Re: Health keeping warm (joan fagalde)
11. BEHAVIOR:trying to escape the travel carrier (Schumann, Jan)
12. RAINBOW BRIDGE: condolences, Ernie (Cindy)
13. Re: Condolences. Re: Thank you. (adcavy at aol.com)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 09:08:46 -0600
From: "Conklin Kacee"
Subject: [Gpdd] MISC: Colorplast
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I don't remember whose idea it was to scarf up the political signs for
the Colorplast but thanks ... it never would've have occurred to me and
I spied two very large, lovely pieces the other night on my way to the
vet and on my way home. I rounded them up the next morning on my way to
work. Now Kiki and Kramer have some much needed larger digs and I'll
have plenty to spare! All of the Colorplast I have gotten has been from
my rescue person in Knoxville, TN which is about 3 hours away. It not
only saves me money but saves me from adding any more to the herd. Ten
really is my limit! Really!
Now if someone can just tell me where I can fine some of those grids
just lying around!
Thanks for a great suggestion!
Kacee , Slave to the Munchee Ten
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 08:26:06 -0800 (PST)
From: Susi Eastin
Subject: [Gpdd] [GPDD] Misc: Think of them as big piggies with long
legs . . .
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Today I received an email from a friend on another gp website,
telling about a SD horse Breeder in a bit of an emergency.
If any of you might be interested (I know some of us do own an
animal or two besides our beloved pigges!) or if you know anyone
else who might be interested, please pass this along. The lady's
name to contact is at the bottom.
Susi
" . . .this gentleman has been raising horses for over 40 years.
This is the "FIRST" year he has had difficulty placing a lot of
them, due to drought / lack of hay / horse market being down,
among other things. These horses are in danger of eventually
going to the sale barn, due to not enough hay/feed.
"I have seen these horses myself, and there are alot of
nice ones. From some of the emails I have personally
gotten, I was just making it known in case some people
were looking for more horses and maybe they could
help. I have seen many posts to these boards about
horses going to auction, or already at auction. This is
the same, they will go to auction.
"So, if there is anyone interested in helping a few of
these horses out, please let me know. I do have group
photos of all of them, and can get individual ones.
Again there are Colts, fillies, yearlings, 2 year
olds, broodmares, stallions, and very broke geldings.
All colors, alot of different color roans, greys, even
buckskins. This gentleman is a good man, just got in
over his head.
Tanya Wieser
Helping Hands Equine Rehab/Rescue/ Retirement
http://www.helpingh ands-rehab. com"
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 15:45:17 -0000
From: "Penny Charlesworth"
Subject: Re: [Gpdd] [CARE] Vitamin C content
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Sorry to read about your computer Debbie.
My source for the Vit C content of veggies is Myra Mahoney's "Really Useful
Guinea Pig Guide ". We can't believe all that we read!! I have never found
out how much Vit C is contained in grass but someone somewhere must have
worked it out. I give it to the Piggyfriends because it is their natural
food, they love it, it keeps their teeth working hard and it is FREE!
I have been feeding runner beans and peas to my herd for many years. I give
the piggies a wide variety of veggies and these are but two of them. The
beans are particularly well received and I always have a glut of them in the
garden.They eat all of the pod and when they have finished there is a pile
of beans left. I wouldn't buy them as the ones in the supermarket always
look tired and dry. Hardly any vitamins left in them. I don't know about the
fat content but I would suspect that it lies in the bean itself.
Penny.
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>I just wanted to correct an error made by Penny, who said that peppers and
> tomatoes had a lower vitamin C content than cauliflower and carrots.
> According
> to Seagull's Guinea Pig Compendium
> _http://www.aracnet.com/~seagull/Guineas/VitaminC.html_
> (http://www.aracnet.com/~seagull/Guineas/VitaminC.html) , RED
> peppers and summer tomatoes have fairly high levels of vitamin C -
> certainly
> more than carrots! Of course, one must be careful with acidic fruits like
> apples and tomatoes, as too many can cause mouth sores. Dandelions are
> high in
> Vitamin C, but contain oxalic acid, so could cause the formation of
> bladder
> stones in excess.
>
> Has anyone been able to ascertain the Vitamin C content of fresh grass?
> Like
> Penny, I feed this almost every day, and it is a great favourite, but I
> have
> never known how much vitamin C it contains.
>
> I only give mine a vitamin C supplement in their water when they appear
> slightly under par - well, to be honest, it's usually if they have lost a
> little
> weight on two consecutive weigh-ins, or if they have been under stress,
> like
> when they are first moved indoors for the winter or a cagemate goes to The
> Bridge. I'm sure I read somewhere that if one gives a constant supplement,
> one
> raises their need for vitamin C and they will develop scurvy if ever the
> supplement is withdrawn. Like Penny, I try to rely on fruit and veg.
>
> Are runner beans and peas really okay for guinea pigs? I thought I read
> somewhere they had too high a fat content? I give a very few as a special
> treat
> when I have them in the garden, but not otherwise. They do like the leaves
> of
> the pea plants though!
>
> Condolences to any one who has recently lost a piggie and not received
> condolences from me - a cat piddled on our computer keyboard and destroyed
> it, so
> we could receive emails but not write them.
>
> Debbie and the 14 Dolly Mixtures
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 16:21:49 -0000
From: "Penny Charlesworth"
Subject: [Gpdd] RESCUE - part 3 of the never ending story
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I was too late home from work yesterday to post the last part of this story. Sorry that it is so long but the tale grew in the telling. For those of you who have had enough kindly skip to the next post!
It was Christmas Day and I was serving up lunch to a houseful of family and guests when the phone rang. My first thought was to let it go to the answerphone but my conscience got the better of me and I answered it.
"You've got to come and get these guinea pigs NOW! They've all got mange." I listened to a few similar sentences before I realised that the caller was the woman from the strange "school". It was well over a year since I had last seen her.
I tried to get a word in and explain that I couldn't come to her house right now. I had taken in an unwanted litter of 5 the previous week, who were still in temporary accommodation. I was desperately trying to think on my feet. She had 6 piggies, the vet's out of hours fee was ?80 ( around $140 ) per pet ( probably more for Christmas Day ) plus the consultation fee and the drugs and the caller was miles away. I try to do my best for piggies in need but how could I fit in 6 more that would have to be quarantined in cages that I didn't have. She was not going to help with costs and I am not running a charity! The vet would be shut for several days over the holiday season. It was not fair to leave my senile mother in the care of my guests but I could not take her with me for a long journey in the cold. So I had to compromise.
I gave her the number of a pet shelter, who owed me a few favours as I have taken "unrehomeable" piggies from them and also provided trees and plants for their new wildlife sanctuary. I found the 24 hour RSPCA emergency number, that of a vet near to where she she lived and two people who did pet rescue on a much grander scale than my little effort. I asked her to please ring me back if none of the folk could help and went back to serving my, by now rather cold, Christmas lunch. As soon as everyone was served, of course, guilt set in. I left my meal and went back to the phone. In England we can dial a number to retrieve that of the last caller and I got the message "number withheld". After so long, I had forgotten that she had an unlisted number.
I worried about those piggies and hoped that she would call back. Was it better to assume that one of the people that I had suggested that she call was able to help and that she never bothered to let me know? She was so weird that common courtesy was probably beyond her. I will always feel guilty but I am only one person and cannot take them all in. I never heard from her again.
Well that's the end of my story. I feel so sad telling it that I probably should have ended it at Part 2. I wish that Cavies Castle had been inexistence then as they would have known many other people who could have helped. I could only do my best.
This strange place was not the worst piggy accommodation that I have ever seen. One stands out way in front of all others and became the subject of posters that I put up when I used to have a stand at RSPCA pet days.
Now it is someone else's turn to tell a story. Let it be a happy one!
Regards to all people and piggies from Penny and the Piggyfriends.
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:31:30 -0500
From: "staileys"
Subject: [Gpdd] Care: Special places and appliances for special
piggies
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Ah yes, we too have succumbed to the Four Fluffernutters' special needs. We
use an old microwave cart in the garage as the designated place for their
towels. Wash cloths and hand towels on the first shelf and bath towels and
other large floor coverings on the bottom. This shelf has a retractable
door so, once stocked, it can be closed down, preventing any prying
questions from the uninitiated. We also bought another fridge so we could
have an entire shelf for their greens. Sears has a fridge that is just
that - all refrigerator with no freezer. Well, the best place to put it was
in the laundry room just off the kitchen but the washer and dryer were
taking up all the space. Sooo, we built a laundry room in the basement,
moved the W&D down there, installed the fridge along with our existing
upright freezer in the old laundry area and have been living quite
comfortably this way for over 5 years. Friends still question the amount of
veggie bags at the bottom of the fridge when they go in to retrieve a soda
or other drink. But, we're so used to it now we don't mind.
Laura Stailey and the 4 Fluffernutters (Sami, Pearl, Frodo and Zoe)
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 17:47:54 +0000 (GMT)
From: Dr Kay Dudman
Subject: [Gpdd] [Health] Vibrating piggies
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I think I know what you mean. There are several kinds of vibrating that
my piggies seem to do.
1. There's a dear little bird going "tweet tweet" in the trees and a piggy
will go "bbbrrrr", fixing the bird with a meaningful stare. This means
"stop that AT ONCE", and we calling it "swearing". The swear is also
applied to telephones, doorbells, or some other sound that has earned
disapproval.
2. A piggy has just been picked up, and in full expectation of a high
quality cuddle, snuggles up to your chin or ear and makes a higher pitched
"ppprrrr", not as deep as swearing, which we call "special purr".
3. The tremble. No sound is made, but the piggy shivers slightly.
Sometimes I think this is anxiety, if the piggy is not sure what is
happening (e.g. at the Vet's, or being picked up by a stranger) or might
be uncomfortable (e.g. might have gas in the tummy). Better have a check
with the Vet to make sure there is nothing the matter. If a piggy is
uncomfortable, they will sometimes almost barricade themselves in the
bedroom with hay and might be reluctant to eat...this means a trip to the
Vet is on the "things to do today" list. It is possible a piggy might be
feeling cold, but obviously we don't want that to happen.
I think it was the tremble that was being discussed originally.
Best wishes
Kay
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 19:05:42 +0000 (GMT)
From: A GREIG
Subject: [Gpdd] Health. Keeping warm
To: Gpdd at gpdd.org
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Dear Jem,
I am so glad you have taken Crockett and Tubbs inside
through the night and in cold days. It is so much fun
being able to watch them in close quarters and good to
know they will be cosy and warm inside.
Best wishes
Anne, Kiaroo,Maisie and Bella
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 14:02:49 -0500
From: Cindy
Subject: [Gpdd] RAINBOW BRIDGE: condolences, Prospero
To: gpdd at gpdd.org
Cc: adcavy at aol.com
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Antoinette and the very sad Magic 60, we are so very sorry to hear of
Prospero's passing. However, although piggies are never with us long
enough, we have to say how impressive it is that he lived to be eight --
what a wonderful lifespan for a piggie! It is good, too, to hear that he
was happy and eating right up to the end and that his passage to the Bridge
was a peaceful one. Yes, we have no doubt that he has been reunited with
his Golden Girl. Prospero was so lucky to be a much loved member of your
family. Please accept our condolences on his passing.
Our thoughts and prayers are with all sick piggies and their humans.
Sadly,
Cindy, Sunshine, Tumbleweed, and Friday
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 11:11:24 -0800 (PST)
From: Rachel H
Subject: [Gpdd] [care]bermuda and timothy hay
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i went to a vet last week who told me she preferred bermuda hay for guinea pigs.......does anyone else here use bermuda hay? im having a hard time getting timothy hay from a feed store close to my house (they mix it with alfalfa, so i have to drive 30 minutes to get regular timothy) but they carry bermuda grass hay........what is the diff and which is better, or are they the same?
i used to get oxbow online but its so expensive for such a little bag and i have four guineas so it isnt pratical anymore, although when comparing oxbow with others you can tell the difference in that it is so green....the ones at the feed store are not....maybe i just dont know how to shop for it haha
anyhow id appreciate any guidance thanks!
rachel
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 12:13:41 -0800 (PST)
From: joan fagalde
Subject: Re: [Gpdd] Health keeping warm
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