[Gpdd] Re: Gpdd Digest, Vol 2, Issue 100
Debbie Ganley
debg43 at ij.net
Fri Dec 5 00:38:48 EST 2003
How awful! I'd adopt (buy) one of the store Gp's & take him/her directly
to an exotic vet for a check-up--it's a rescue if you do that. Hopefully
it'll be ok. i adopted Potter from our local humane society---she was fine.
She was dumped in front of a petsmart store in January in a box with 4
others, taken to Humane & we adopted her from there--she's a joy & we love
her a lot. The C&C house can be done in about 3 hours--I just built one for
her this summer & she loves it--get the cubes in Walmart, under Rubbermaid
storage cubes--about $15 for a box of 14 x 14 inch cubes, plastic coated
storage billed as book storage cubes--it'll make a whole 4 grid house on
each side, plus 2 grids on each end--let me know if you need any more help
on the house--I can talk you thru it. Deb
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>Today's Topics:
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> 1. RE: CARE :Food Storage (LJ GOMBAR)
> 2. Misc: Hay (Misti Sefcik)
> 3. Misc (Misti Sefcik)
> 4. [HEALTH] Lost hair on snout (Jocelyn Anderson)
> 5. ANNOUNCEMENT - New to digest (Mightywillis at cs.com)
> 6. Gpdd ANNOUNCEMENT I'm new to the list! (Michelle Melaragno)
> 7. [Health] Porky's skin problem (judith sharamitaro)
> 8. [ANNOUNCE] <New Member Nancy> (Nancy Tuffli)
> 9. [RESCUE] <Godparents for Piggies> (Nancy Tuffli)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:59:46 -0500
>From: "LJ GOMBAR" <lj at theurnstudio.com>
>Subject: [Gpdd] RE: CARE :Food Storage
>To: <Gpdd at gpdd.org>
>Message-ID:
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>Hi!
>I buy pellets 50 lbs at a time from Oxbow. There is such a difference
>in quality -from store bought brand. When I get a 50lb bag, It smells
>so awesome,like fresh pellets should. (feel kinda hoaky talking about
>pellets like fresh baked cookies). I line up some freezer bags, and
>just fill freezerbags until the original bag is empty. Then I stick
>them in our huge deep freezer and get out one bag at a time, using one
>up one by one. I just keep the one bag at the top of the freezer.
>Stays dark and cold. Each time I open the bag, they smell as fresh.
>Lasts me about a year with 2 pigs.
>LJ
>
>I buy Cavy Cuisine in 5 pound bags. Do I need to put the unopened bags
>in the freezer to keep the Vit. C safe? Or can they just sit in my dry
>garage (as long as they are unopened)?
>
>Warm Wheeks, Janelle
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>Message: 2
>Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 11:14:34 -0600
>From: "Misti Sefcik" <awesomejesus at hotmail.com>
>Subject: [Gpdd] Misc: Hay
>To: Gpdd at gpdd.org
>Message-ID: <Law9-F341nYD9iMaX5g0000bf8b at hotmail.com>
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>UNLIMITED Timothy Hay is recommended for guinea pigs. For young Guinea
>pigs under the age of 4 months and pregnant or lactating mothers, Alfalfa
>hay is also recommended For those cavies, you could mix half Timothy and
>Alfalfa Since Alfalfa hay is too high in calcium, it should only be
given
>to adult cavies as an occasional treat.
>
> God Bless,
> Misti
>
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>Message: 3
>Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 11:15:21 -0600
>From: "Misti Sefcik" <awesomejesus at hotmail.com>
>Subject: [Gpdd] Misc
>To: Gpdd at gpdd.org
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>"One of the most important items in the guinea pig diet is grass hay, which
>should be fed in unlimited quantities to both adults and baby guinea pigs.
>It is important to provide an unlimited source of hay because pellets do
not
>provide enough long fiber to keep their intestines in good working order.
>The long fibers stimulate muscle contraction of the intestines to improve
>and maintain gut motility (to prevent gastrointestinal obstruction).
>
>Chewing hay is also important. Like rabbits, the molars in guinea pigs are
>constantly growing and must be ground down by chewing. Constant chewing on
>hay promotes healthy and normal wear on their molars. Treats and chew
sticks
>are not efficient at wearing the teeth.
>
>Alfalfa hay is rich in protein and calcium, but when combined with pellets
>it doesn’t have the proper ratio of calcium and phosphorus. This can lead
to
>improper gastrointestinal motility, such as diarrhea. It also may
predispose
>certain guinea pigs to calcium oxalate bladder or kidney stones. Timothy
hay
>is a better choice and is becoming more readily available. It’s important
to
>keep your guinea pig sleek, so cut down on the amount of protein and
>calorie-rich pellets while feeding timothy hay."
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>Message: 4
>Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 14:39:20 -0500
>From: Jocelyn Anderson <jocelyn at nflight.com>
>Subject: [Gpdd] [HEALTH] Lost hair on snout
>To: gpdd at gpdd.org <gpdd at gpdd.org>
>Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.1.20031204143229.02435c20 at 127.0.0.1>
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>Hello all!
>
>My piggie Spybreak has a line of hairlessness on his snout, right between
>the nostrils ( can be seen here:
>http://nflight.com/albums/spybreakthepeeg/Spybreak_Ghost16.jpg ). I had
>figured it'd go away after awhile, but such is not the case. Any advice on
>what is causing this (or if I should even be worried about it) would be
>muchly appreciated!
>
>Jocelyn (^..^)
>
>
>
>
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>Message: 5
>Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:24:38 EST
>From: Mightywillis at cs.com
>Subject: [Gpdd] ANNOUNCEMENT - New to digest
>To: Gpdd at gpdd.org
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>Hello. I have been waiting for the "perfect" time to get another guinea
pig.
> Now is the time. I had two years ago and they passed on. Our daughter is
>older now, we moved out of our apartment into a house, and I've been
waiting
>for 3+ years for that evasive "perfect" time.
>I thought first of adopting rescue, but there aren't any close enough to
me.
>Driving far isn't an option with my daughter. I checked out one pet store
>and was appalled. The store was a huge vaulted-ceiling area, and the
minute I
>stepped through the doors, I smelled rodents. I found the GPs and was
appalled
>for the second time. There were nine piggies in a maybe 2-1/2 feet x 1-1/2
>foot plastic cage. There were very young females and at least one male all
>together. One of the young females was obviously pregnant. They had an
adult GP
>in a 1-foot x 2-foot cage. My heart went out, but I have to build my C&C
>cage yet (still trying to find the cubes).
>I need some advice. I will ultimately make my own decision, but just want
>some opinions here to weigh. Should I purchase one of these GPs? I want
to
>help them, but I don't want my precious piggy to die before her time
either. I
>know it's not guaranteed to die, but I'm afraid, I guess. Another store
sells
>just females, the cages are so clean, and the store smells fresh. What do
>y'all think?
>
>Julie - piggy lover / future piggy owner
>
>
>
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>
>Message: 6
>Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:24:18 -0500
>From: "Michelle Melaragno" <doc141melaragno at adelphia.net>
>Subject: [Gpdd] Gpdd ANNOUNCEMENT I'm new to the list!
>To: <Gpdd at gpdd.org>
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>Hello to all!
> Came across the Digest looking for INFO...I am in the process of
>becoming a licensed GP rescue. I'll be the only one in the state of
>Maine, due to the closing of only one other licensed rescue. I
>currently have 15 GP's...all rescues, 9 here to stay, 5 available for
>adoption and 1 in foster care from the local humane society. I have
>been very lucky to have found homes for 10 others so far! I am also mom
>to a horse, 5 sheep, 1 dog, 6 cats, 2 rats and a rabbit.
> I have a question. From other postings...please describe the
>referenced "Critical Care". I have so far had no severe health issues,
>but it is only a matter of time, I'm sure!
> Hope I have done this properly!
>
>Michelle & the critter crew in Maine!
>
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>Today's Topics:
>
> 1. Re: Announcement (Off1Knight at aol.com)
> 2. HEALTH: Baby Piglets (Emma Silvester)
> 3. [Health] Dear Julia and baby Delilah... (Jolanda van Hintum)
> 4. dsn help - cavy in labor (Karen Brown)
> 5. [ANNOUNCE] <Re: response to Introduction of Kirsten and gang
> - pictures of the gang> (Kirsten McKnight)
> 6. [BREEDING] (K.Newbould at hlc.org.uk)
> 7. Re: Health: Penny wheezing (Susan Eastin)
> 8. MISC: Hay Feeding Strategy (Susan Eastin)
> 9. [HEALTH] coughing (KNOTT9 at aol.com)
> 10. Health: Surgery Questions (Susan Eastin)
> 11. [ANNOUNCEMENT] Hi I'm new!! (Sara Deusterhoff)
> 12. SILLY: Post-celebration behavior (Susan Eastin)
> 13. CARE - Food Storage (Janell)
> 14. [Behavior] boy and girl bonding (Karen Brown)
> 15. RE: [HEALTH] Coat repair? (Susan Eastin)
> 16. [behavior] - pig with an attitude... (Bob & Chris Robertson)
> 17. CARE: Vets (Mary Destatte)
> 18. Re: Health: Surgery Questions (DFHAKES at aol.com)
> 19. Re: Announcement: Condolences for Delilah (Off1Knight at aol.com)
> 20. [SILLY] Piggy Personals (Algernon07 at aol.com)
> 21. Health: Brownie Bear Update (Leah McNeil)
>
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>Message: 1
>Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 02:16:22 EST
>From: Off1Knight at aol.com
>Subject: [Gpdd] Re: Announcement
>To: Gpdd at gpdd.org
>Message-ID: <1d1.154e99ec.2cfee7c6 at aol.com>
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>Dear David and Beth,
>I cannot believe that so soon after the passing of your little CINDER,
>EVANDER HOLYPIG has made the trip across the Bridge. The sadness and
>loss you feel I
>am sure no words could ever describe. After reading your post of his
>passing,
>I am compelled to tell you that you did all that was humanly possible
>for the
>little guy. There is no way to truly KNOW when one of these little bits
>of
>heaven are sick before it is beyond the point at which a vets assistance
>would
>be useful. What you did was what any loving parent would do for his
>little guy
>or girl, myself included, that is get him to the vet as soon as
>possible. Your
>holding him and feeding him as you did to get something into him was
>also the
>right thing to do, since you know all to well that when they stop
>eating, it
>is serious. You said you named him EVANDER HOLYPIG for the tear in his
>ear.
>Well I think today you can see that you gave him a name he truly
>deserved. A
>name befitting him for his tenacious fight to stay with you. He WAS a
>fighter
>and sometimes when you fight you DO win...and for every second he stayed
>with
>you HE DID WIN...your love was what sustained him and it was for that he
>fought
>for life. You said how he hated the feedings, well they KNOW when we are
>doing
>something for their good no matter how unpleasant. It brings tears to my
>eyes
>thinking of how you must have felt as you held him and wishing in a way
>the
>end would come and he could be free of the pain and the hurt and at the
>same
>time NEVER wanting to see him pass. He was a good boy and lived up to
>his name
>and you lived up to the love he knew you had for him and I am SURE that
>through
>his most difficult times, it was that love that sustained him. I truly
>believe the most difficult part of his passing was HIS desire to stay
>with you, but
>it is God that gave him to this world and it is God that leads him back
>across
>the bridge. I am SURE you , as I believe in the bridge and KNOW he is
>now
>whole again not suffering and keeping your little CINDER company. And I
>am SURE
>he has told her how much you love them and miss them BOTH. So please
>accept my
>deepest cna most sincere condolences on the loss of EVANDER and God keep
>him
>close until you see him again.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Joseph Petrillo, father of George the guinea pig
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 2
>Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:57:07 -0000
>From: "Emma Silvester" <missus at emma-silvester.fsnet.co.uk>
>Subject: [Gpdd] HEALTH: Baby Piglets
>To: <Gpdd at gpdd.org>
>Message-ID: <000001c3b97b$6f6e4740$bac3883e at shuttlebox>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>Hi Everyone,
>
>I have only been a subscriber to this page for about a week and already
>I can't imagine what I did without it! It is great to see so many
>likeminded piggy people out there! I have 6 current piggies (Maud,
>Myrtle, Basil, Fred, Ginger and Wilma) with more on the way (Fred and
>Ginger the proud parents-to-be). I have kept and loved piggies for 8
>years now and these are my second lot of piglets to be born. I have read
>loads of info about them (Peter Gurney is a fantastic source, both in
>book form and on the web. What he doesn't know about piggies isn't worth
>knowing! He lives with over 70 in his apartment and knows each and every
>one by name and likes/dislikes!) Anyway, GPs are very good mothers with
>few problems occurring during birth. The one to look out for is the one
>that someone mentioned in GPdd 96 when a GP still hasn't finished
>delivering. Peter Gurney says that this is one case where you need to
>get your GP to a vet asap as the stuck piglet has to be removed as soon
>as possible.
>
>
>With regards to the recently departed piggies (may they rest in peace) I
>too have had a total of 3 GPs who have passed away from the same
>symptoms. The first, Honky, lived with me and I spent so much time in
>her company that I noticed the very first sign of the illness. I took
>her straight to the vet and did all the things that everyone else has
>mentioned (cuddles, syringe feeding, staying up all night) to no avail.
>I just wanted to reassure the others out there that they did everything
>they could. None of us could have known how fast this mystery illness
>would take our babies away from us and at least they passed over knowing
>how much they were loved.
>
>Wheeps and squeaks to all,
>
>Emma and all
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 3
>Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 12:27:14 +0100
>From: "Jolanda van Hintum" <jvanhintum at hotmail.com>
>Subject: [Gpdd] [Health] Dear Julia and baby Delilah...
>To: tabithaporter at yahoo.com
>Cc: Gpdd at gpdd.org
>Message-ID: <BAY2-F38qddgD6S566j00005163 at hotmail.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
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>When i read your post about your little Delilah's passing, the tears
>streamed down my cheeks.
>
>I went through almost the same thing, a couple of years ago with my
>babyboy
>Fievel (he was also only 18 months when he died...).
>Fievel stopt eating also and the vet told me it had to do with his
>molars.
>He cut them but after that operation Fievel wouldn't eat a thing. I
>syringe-fed him for a month but he was getting thinner and thinner. One
>morning I woke up to find his eyes turned all cloudy and misty grey, and
>I
>couldn't see him suffer any longer. With pain in my heart my boyfriend
>and I
>brought him to the vet and he died in my arms at the vets office.
>Allthough I fed him all good things, I read about Critical Care after he
>
>died and I felt really guilty. Maybe if I had given him the Critical
>Care he
>would have survived, etc, etc. Or maybe I should have fed him for two
>months, etc.
>But I know now I did everything I could to help him.
>Just as you did everything you could to help your baby Delilah...
>
>Lots of sympathy in these sad times from Jolanda, slave to Youp and
>Harry
>from Holland.
>
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>
>Message: 4
>Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 05:53:39 -0800 (PST)
>From: Karen Brown <shanclan2003 at yahoo.com>
>Subject: [Gpdd] dsn help - cavy in labor
>To: gobigred312002 at yahoo.com
>Cc: "gpdd at gpdd.org" <gpdd at gpdd.org>
>Message-ID: <20031203135339.45057.qmail at web13010.mail.yahoo.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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>What happened? Did she deliver?
>
>=====
>Karen J. Brown
>gentle hands & kindly words petsitting
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>Message: 5
>Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:26:49 -0500
>From: "Kirsten McKnight" <Kirsten.McKnight at EQAO.com>
>Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCE] <Re: response to Introduction of Kirsten
> and gang - pictures of the gang>
>To: <gpdd at gpdd.org>
>Message-ID:
> <C75EC0D382C2C14E9ADF1CB59314435B0DAF93 at eqaoexc01.eqao.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>Hi Susan,
>
>If you want to send me your email address (and anyone else who is
>interested may do so too!) I would be happy to send you an invite from
>the website. Of course, this will only work if your provider accepts
>html formatted email??
>
>Let me know! I think the beautiful cat was my sweetie Sylvester - the
>black and white tuxedo cat?
>
>Wheeks purrs and all that!
>Kirsten
>
>Kirsten McKnight, MISt
>Coordinator, Records Management/Data Archivist
>Education, Quality, and Accountability Office
>2 Carlton St. Suite 1200
>Toronto, ON M5B 2M9
>416-326-2461
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>Message: 6
>Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:47:13 -0000
>From: <K.Newbould at hlc.org.uk>
>Subject: [Gpdd] [BREEDING]
>To: <gpdd at gpdd.org>
>Message-ID:
> <AD941EEF2F6F1C429540C047F550A19B028A5C41 at exserver1.hlc.org>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
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>My guinea-pig is called Sugar and I have started breeding from her, she
>is my baby, though I breed from her and her sister and her first child
>(the dad I can not reach) and her sister.
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 7
>Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:32:14 -0600
>From: "Susan Eastin" <susan at boatlift.com>
>Subject: [Gpdd] Re: Health: Penny wheezing
>To: "Gpdd" <gpdd at gpdd.org>
>Message-ID: <IDECJDHBGKCDDNPBBCHHAEANCEAA.susan at boatlift.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>Dawnda-
>The information on wheezing out of the GP book is great. So far we've
>been
>lucky;
>the only time I've heard anything like wheezing out of the Okie Piggies
>was
>a few
>times when CocoPuff got really worried as to where Snowy was and wheeked
>loudly.
>Each time he wheeked, he'd sound like he was wheezing - wheek - wheeze -
>wheek -
>wheeze. When he calmed down (immediately on finding Snowy), I'd pick
>him up
>and
>listen to his breathing, etc., and he sounded fine. He'd give me a
>strange
>look, but
>he sounded fine. So maybe that's the stress-related wheezing it
>mentions.
>Your mention of the fluid buildup makes me wonder, again, about Snowy.
>Just
>how
>big should a gp be? She's 8 months old now, and seems so wide and fat!
>She's only a
>month older than CocoPuff, but has always been bigger. He just can't
>seem
>to catch up!
>I keep hoping she's with pig, but still doesn't seem to be. (do the home
>pregnancy tests
>work for piggies?) They went to the local vet for a nail trim in Oct
>and he
>pronounced
>them both healthy, but I keep wondering. They don't popcorn and run as
>much as
>they did at first, but are active. CocoPuff is definitely more
>fit-looking;
>Snowy sometimes
>just looks like a big green & white blob. (in spite of baths, she always
>seems to get green
>here and there on her fluffy white coat from the parsley and clover)
>Does she sound like she's within the norm, or should she see an exotics
>vet?
>Susi and the Okie Piggies
> ~Snowy & CocoPuff
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 8
>Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:45:14 -0600
>From: "Susan Eastin" <susan at boatlift.com>
>Subject: [Gpdd] MISC: Hay Feeding Strategy
>To: "Gpdd" <gpdd at gpdd.org>
>Message-ID: <IDECJDHBGKCDDNPBBCHHIEANCEAA.susan at boatlift.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>That sounds like a great hay feeder! Having fed hay to cattle for many
>years, I've
>learned that what gets scattered on the ground and laid on (and more!)
>and
>is wasted.
>A hay feeder that contains the hay but allows access to most of it is
>great.
>With the piggies, I use one of those plastic feeders that attach to the
>outside of the cage
>and you fill it from the top. It's angled so it all falls down where
>they
>can get it. I also
>use one of those square wire bird feeders designed for a block of suet,
>and
>don't snap it
>completely closed. It's on a long chain that I use to hang it on the
>side
>of the pen or cage.
>Another thing I've found useful are little chrome-covered soap holders
>on
>suction cups.
>(from the housewares dept at WalMart). They're V-shaped and open at the
>ends. The suction
>cups fit nicely between the bars on the cage, or they could be fastened
>on
>with tie-wires.
>I use these to hold fresh grass and clover, or whatever similar treats I
>find. At first Snowy
>seemed scared of these and would run up and dump out the food, push the
>feeder away,
>then eat. But she's gotten over her fear (apparently the chrome), at
>least
>enough to eat
>quicker without the hassle! I first used a little wire section from
>another
>critter cage and
>attached it to the side of the cage at a "V"'d angle and put their
>clover it
>it. But it had very
>square corners that could hurt an eye, and the chrome things have
>rounded
>corners.
>But I definitely know what you mean about walking into a store and
>seeing
>things in terms
>of the piggies! this must be a sickness, an obsession . . . my grown
>kids
>are threatening to
>have me commited (I tell them fine, as long as I can take my piggies!)
>I love to look at the different cage designs and themes, etc., and get
>all
>kinds of ideas. We
>currently have a split-level, but it is a 'work in progress'. (Just
>wait
>til after Christmas!)
>Hugs to all,
>Susi and the Okie Piggies
> ~Snowy & CocoPuff
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 9
>Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:49:27 EST
>From: KNOTT9 at aol.com
>Subject: [Gpdd] [HEALTH] coughing
>To: gpdd at gpdd.org
>Message-ID: <145.1dd6690c.2cff8a37 at aol.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
>Hello
>This is my first posting,
> I have got two piggys Barney and Archie. I have had them for six
>months.
>They both seem very happy lively pigs however Archie has started to
>cough he
>has no other side effects and scoffs everything that is put in front of
>him.
>My pigs are kept inside out of any draughts I was wondering if it could
>be the
>bedding or hay making him cough. I would appreciate any advice.
>
>Sara, Barney & Archie
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 10
>Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:26:32 -0600
>From: "Susan Eastin" <susan at boatlift.com>
>Subject: [Gpdd] Health: Surgery Questions
>To: "Gpdd" <gpdd at gpdd.org>
>Message-ID: <IDECJDHBGKCDDNPBBCHHEEAOCEAA.susan at boatlift.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>Hi Leah ~
>Poor little Brownie Bear! We'll all be holding our collective breath,
>with
>fingers
>and paws crossed tomorrow. Our prayers will be with you for the best
>results.
>What do they say can cause the UTI's? I'm sure it's similar to people,
>that
>some
>are just predisposed to a condition, but I'd like to do what I can to
>try to
>avoid
>some of these situations. But if it's something like too much parsley,
>that
>would
>be hard to change . . . no candy, for sure!
>
>Please keep us posted on how it goes!
>Love and wheeks from
>Susi and the Okie Piggies
> ~Snowy & CocoPuff
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 11
>Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:22:15 -0800 (PST)
>From: Sara Deusterhoff <deusterhoff at yahoo.com>
>Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCEMENT] Hi I'm new!!
>To: Gpdd at gpdd.org
>Message-ID: <20031203192215.87747.qmail at web60408.mail.yahoo.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>(hope I'm doing this right...)
>
>Hello All!
>
> New and glad to be here! I'm 23 from Minnesota and my fiancee and
>I are looking for our first pet. After considering and rejecting many
>other types of pets, we've decided to add a guinea pig to our happy
>home. To ensure that my soon to be named "Squishy" (is that a dumb
>name?) , is super-duper happy (seems like lots of piggies go down an
>unfortunate road) ...we're doing TONS of research before our purchase.
>So I hope to get to know many of you well and thanks for letting me
>post!
>
>Sara and Joe
>
>
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>
>Message: 12
>Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:35:04 -0600
>From: "Susan Eastin" <susan at boatlift.com>
>Subject: [Gpdd] SILLY: Post-celebration behavior
>To: "Gpdd" <gpdd at gpdd.org>
>Message-ID: <IDECJDHBGKCDDNPBBCHHKEAOCEAA.susan at boatlift.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>Just wondering if anyone else has noticed strange behavior from their
>piggies
>since their Great Trip and Celebration? Sometimes I notice Snowy &/or
>CocoPuff
>just gazing wistfully with a bit of a smile. A couple times Miss Snowy
>has
>actually
>disappeared for a short time. You will remember that both of these
>little
>rascals
>actually sneaked out early on the morning of our flight to the Western
>Ocean, leaving
>me behind. (said they "forgot" I was going with them, in all the
>excitement)
>I have heard bits of conversations, concerning Mr Cooders, and how Snowy
>resembles
>Miss Callie only younger! Should either of these little characters
>suddenly
>show up
>as "visitors" to your piggies, please delay them and contact me at once.
>Also, they now seem to expect the full Brunch Buffet, turning up their
>little noses
>at simple offerings of carrot or spinach.
>More a slave than ever,
>Susi (for the OP's)
>
>Also- has anyone managed to compile a scrapbook of pigtures from the
>Celebration?
>I have a few pigtures I can share that fell out of their luggage when
>they
>returned.
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 13
>Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:35:47 -0800
>From: "Janell" <eythell at worldnet.att.net>
>Subject: [Gpdd] CARE - Food Storage
>To: <Gpdd at gpdd.org>
>Message-ID: <000901c3b9dd$0dc48600$b714490c at att.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>I buy Cavy Cuisine in 5 pound bags. Do I need to put the unopened bags
>in
>the freezer to keep the Vit. C safe? Or can they just sit in my dry
>garage
>(as long as they are unopened)?
>
>Warm Wheeks, Janelle
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 14
>Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:22:23 -0800 (PST)
>From: Karen Brown <shanclan2003 at yahoo.com>
>Subject: [Gpdd] [Behavior] boy and girl bonding
>To: DFHAKES at aol.com
>Cc: "gpdd at gpdd.org" <gpdd at gpdd.org>
>Message-ID: <20031203212223.81254.qmail at web13011.mail.yahoo.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>Don't underestimate the power of sow to punch out a
>frisky boar. I've seen it happen.
>
>=====
>Karen J. Brown
>gentle hands & kindly words petsitting
>
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>
>Message: 15
>Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:38:08 -0600
>From: "Susan Eastin" <susan at boatlift.com>
>Subject: [Gpdd] RE: [HEALTH] Coat repair?
>To: "Gpdd" <gpdd at gpdd.org>
>Message-ID: <IDECJDHBGKCDDNPBBCHHKEBACEAA.susan at boatlift.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>Does anyone know if anything can be done to correct a minor
>hair problem? The lady we got CocoPuff from said apparently
>one of the other piggies got hold of the hair on his little nose
>and jerked it, because it sticks out instead of lying down. She
>said it would eventually lie down. Well, that was over 6 months
>ago, and it still sticks out. When I rub his head and nose it will
>kind of lie down, but then goes right back the way it was. It's
>not like a crest or rosette or whatever, not even a cowlick.
>Just a very small tuft, like a very small paint brush. If it did
>the same on the other side, it would look like a mustache!
>Can we do anything to correct it? Should we just get some
>hair gel and make the other side match?
>I don't know if he makes rude remarks under his breath or what,
>but when he and Snowy are on my lap, sometimes she'll suddenly
>turn and act like she's going to bite him, usually on the nose.
>A few times my hand has been in the way, and it just feels like
>she's hitting with her teeth, not biting. But he'll hold his head up
>for a few minutes as though he's been reprimanded for something.
>So it may be something he brings on himself . . .
>Susi and the OP's
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 16
>Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:33:25 -0800
>From: "Bob & Chris Robertson" <rssg at earthlink.net>
>Subject: [Gpdd] [behavior] - pig with an attitude...
>To: "GPDD" <gpdd at gpdd.org>
>Message-ID: <009201c3b9ed$77562d70$0201a8c0 at Office>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>Scott & Rebecca. We adopted a rescue pig who had been almost starved to
>death. In fact, when she was picked up by rescue she was in the cage
>with
>her two sisters, and one of them was dead already. She has been with us
>for
>4 & 1/2 years now, and she still is marked by that experience. Her cage
>mate is very gentle and tolerates Cleo's pushy nature. The minute food
>is
>placed in the cage Cleo is all over it, and will push her sister away
>until
>she has run around it, sniffed and sized it up and has eaten some of it.
>At
>first we worried about this, but the girls do just fine together, as our
>other gal is laid back and just waits her "turn". Both are well fed and
>loved: cavy cusine is available at all times, a full hay rack, fresh
>vegetable bowl every morning, and romaine & greens (including grass)
>daily.
>Yet, our poor Cleo still jumps at the food as if it will disappear if
>she
>turns her back. It can be that when your little one was sick she
>underwent
>a marking of sorts also, and this has changed her. In our house we just
>laugh at Cleo as she acts like she is starving - standing in a pile of
>food!
>
>Chris, Cleo and Spookie
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 17
>Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:08:39 -0500
>From: "Mary Destatte" <mdstretch at tbbs.net>
>Subject: [Gpdd] CARE: Vets
>To: "*Guinea Pig Daily Digest" <gpdd at gpdd.org>
>Message-ID: <003c01c3b9fa$c6254640$6701a8c0 at mdstretch>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>Hi. This Mary D (mom to angel and stretch) I've been out of touch for
>at least a month do to a downed computer. But I am back now.
>(Yeaaaah!) It was bad timing with the lay of the last golden poo
>happening during this time and angle and stretch off on their first trip
>alone. I'm up to issue 75 of the GPDD so I do have some catching up to
>do. I wanted to comment on the issue of good vs not so good vets.
>Some of the questions that have been list to ask your vet before
>allowing him/her to do surgery on you little piggie are excellent. My
>vet did not even want to the surgery on stretch when I asked to nueter
>him. I want a female though and my lease allows for me to have 2
>piggies at a time. (besides the fact that I do not think that I would
>have been able to care more than this--even though my heart is to just
>once have baby piggies) I had to so not to my self and let him know how
>serious this needed to be done. He recovered so quickly and is doing
>fantastic. As for the oil gland I do not have the problem of his fur
>getting so bad since angel has moved in. She takes care of him as he
>were her own baby (even though he is 1 year older). She really keeps
>him clean.
>
>I want to race through and read all of the back issues so that I can
>find out the trip went. Angel and stretch have been very mute on the
>subject. She is a little more fiesty and he seems to be worn out. If
>anyone knows what they were up to I am anxious to know. Should I let
>them go again alone the next time somethings up. I hope that I get
>some ideas of what they might have done by reading the back issues. The
>kissing booth I've read about having questioning if it has anything to
>do with stretches being so worn out.
>
>Well I need to read on so bye for now.
>
>Mary D. (mom to angel and stretch)
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 18
>Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:49:11 EST
>From: DFHAKES at aol.com
>Subject: [Gpdd] Re: Health: Surgery Questions
>To: Gpdd at gpdd.org
>Cc: lconsuela at yahoo.com
>Message-ID: <a0.821756.2cffec97 at aol.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
>Leah,
>
>As a starting point, you might want to check the House Rabbit Society
>website. Go to www.rabbit.org and click on vets. Many vets who
>specialize in
>rabbits also see guinea pigs. You might ask the front office how many
>guinea pigs
>they see on a weekly basis. Go ahead and ask the vet the tough
>questions about
>their experience with the surgery. A good vet will not get defensive.
>
>Dana F. Hakes
>Chapter Manager
>Tampa Bay House Rabbit Society
>www.tampabayhrs.org
>http://www.petfinder.org/shelters/FL92.html
>
>"...Saving just one pet won't change the world
>..but, surely, the world will change for that one pet..."
>
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>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 19
>Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:52:41 EST
>From: Off1Knight at aol.com
>Subject: [Gpdd] Re: Announcement: Condolences for Delilah
>To: Gpdd at gpdd.org
>Message-ID: <18c.23397405.2d000989 at aol.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
>Julia,
>
>I wanted to offer my most sincere and deepest regrets on the loss of
>your
>little girl Dililah. There is NEVER EVER a good time to see any of our
>little
>guys cross over the bridge. But there are situations that make that loss
>even
>more difficult. When a little one like Lilac, the weeks old pet shop
>piggy that
>never had a chance at life, passed it was no less than heartbreaking
>because
>she never even knew what love was. Then there are those that live to the
>fine
>age of 8 or 9. We cry long and hard for these very dear friends and even
>though
>we have given them the most wonderful life possible, our hearts are
>darkened
>for the emptiness they leave when they pass over the bridge. For just as
>a best
>friend is missed when they pass away, so are these little ones that have
>had
>a wonderful life but will be ever so missed. Then there are these even
>sadder,
>if that is possible, like Dililah who had a wonderful home and obviously
>all
>the love any guinea pig could ever want by her mother, Julia. In God's
>infinite wisdom, he has seen fit to allow this little girl ut a taste of
>these
>wondrous things before taking her in his arms in what seemed to be no
>more than the
>blink of an eye. And though it is terrible to feel that ache in your
>heart for
>her, remember that she is now FREE of pain and I truly think that worse
>than
>loosing a little one is to see him or her suffer. And there are times
>that
>this cannot be helped because just as you love them, they love you and
>fight to
>stay with you as long as possible. Dililah was one such little girl. The
>love
>she had for her mother made her fight and for that you should be proud
>of her.
>She left our world for a much better place where she will never suffer
>for a
>MOMENT more. I place where I believe WE are all discussed at length and
>breath.
>A place where one day we will make them proud when we cross that bridge
>and
>they will tell all their friends, "HERE IS MY MOMMY" or "HERE IS MY
>DADDY" So
>Julia, in Dililah's passing there is one ray of light meant just for you
>and
>that is you will have her waiting for you when God sees fit to allow you
>across
>the bridge and KNOW that she is telling all the little ones on that side
>of
>the bridge how her mother would not let her go without giving her ALL
>the love
>she had. Once again I am sorry for your loss. I know she will live
>forever in
>your heart.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Joseph C. Petrillo, George the guinea pigs father
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 20
>Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 23:28:33 EST
>From: Algernon07 at aol.com
>Subject: [Gpdd] [SILLY] Piggy Personals
>To: gpdd at gpdd.org
>Message-ID: <a.394210b9.2d0011f1 at aol.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
>Hello,
>Mr. Cooders here seeking news of Miss Cally, my delightful "new friend."
>
>Coody
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 21
>Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 06:26:50 -0800 (PST)
>From: Leah McNeil <lconsuela at yahoo.com>
>Subject: [Gpdd] Health: Brownie Bear Update
>To: Guinea Pig Daily Digest <gpdd at gpdd.org>, Guinea Pig Stone Digest
> <Stones at gpigs-database.org>
>Message-ID: <20031204142650.79808.qmail at web21402.mail.yahoo.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>Hello Slaves!
>First, I wanna Thank You for all of information
>and support I've gotten from y'all. I really
>would be lost without you guys.
>
>I took B-Bear back to the Vet yesterday and
>had x-rays done, and Good News--No Bladder Stones
>(Thank God!). But, there was "something" going
>on in her reproductive area(???). The Vet showed
>me her x-ray and showed me a little "fuzzy" area--
>it was a very small area and she told me that
>it could be a buildup of Sludge (that white,
>chalky stuff). The Vet also suggested that if
>Brownie continues to whine when she pees, that
>I should consider doing Exploratory Surgery on
>her, or do an Ultrasound. Well, I'm not really
>comfortable doing the Exploratory Surgery and
>actually, I'll be taking her to a different Vet
>on Saturday. I would like to get Brownie spayed,
>and Judi (NoVa/D.C./Baltimore Rabbit & G-Pig
>Rescue Goddess) referred me to a good Vet. And
>that's the Vet that I'm taking B-Bear to on
>Saturday.
>
>The Vet yesterday had to take two x-rays because
>the first one didn't come out so good, but you
>can still see it if you put it up against bright
>light. Well, she let me keep the 'bad' x-ray,
>so I'm gonna also bring that for the new Vet.
>But, I am planning to get x-rays done again on
>Saturday (for a second opinion, if you will).
>
>So, again I just want to Thank You you all for
>emailing me privately and to the digest and for
>keeping my Bear in your thoughts and prayers.
>Brownie Bear (and of course her Slave too) really
>really really APPRECIATE IT...
>
>Healing Wheeeeeeeeeps to those piggies (and Slaves
>too) who are sickly. I hope you're feeling better
>soon.
>
> Love 'n Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeps,
> Leah...Slave to Brownie Bear :-)
>
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>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 7
>Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:28:00 -0500
>From: "judith sharamitaro" <shim1990 at hotmail.com>
>Subject: [Gpdd] [Health] Porky's skin problem
>To: "gpdd" <gpdd at gpdd.org>
>Message-ID: <Sea1-DAV51GcBtFzwkr00002938 at hotmail.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>Once again I turn to the digest's trusty readers for some advice! Porky,
>one of my 2 1/2 year old girls, has come up with a bald patch and sores -
>obviously she spent her day picking and scratching, as she was fine
>yesterday.
>After reading what Peter Gurney had to say, I'm almost positive my little
>darlin' has parasites of some type. (I inspect her coat regularly and all
>looks well, but I know some parasites are too small to see.) I can only
>imagine the pests came in via shavings or hay.
>My question is, what treatment would you recommend? Peter Gurney had some
>suggestions, but as he's in the U.K., I was hoping a digest reader has had
>success with a product available at a chain like Petco or Petsmart that I
>could get. Thanks for your help, and keep the valient but uncomfortable
>Porky Porcellous in your kind thoughts!
>Thanks to those who gave advice about Corky's sudden loud shrieking! She
is
>fit as a fiddle, and still squealing loudly at the drop of a carrot! I
>think she must have discovered the new note in her vocal range one day
while
>I was at work, and decided to include it in her repitoire.
>It's comforting to have a watch-pig in the house now that the dog is deaf!
>Best thoughts to all piggies and slaves who ail, love to those who have had
>a friend cross the bridge.
> Judi, Porky, and Corky (& the gang)
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 8
>Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 22:12:30 -0600
>From: "Nancy Tuffli" <n_tuffli at hotmail.com>
>Subject: [Gpdd] [ANNOUNCE] <New Member Nancy>
>To: gpdd at gpdd.org
>Message-ID: <Law14-F742Dd5EHvcDi0000b75c at hotmail.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
>
>My name is Nancy and I'm owned by Gwinnie and Jackie. Jackie is 3 1/2 and
>Gwinnie is 1 1/2. Gwinnie has diabetes but is doing much better since she
>started taking oral meds. Looking forward to conversing with you.
>
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>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 9
>Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 22:16:59 -0600
>From: "Nancy Tuffli" <n_tuffli at hotmail.com>
>Subject: [Gpdd] [RESCUE] <Godparents for Piggies>
>To: gpdd at gpdd.org
>Message-ID: <LAW14-F7M3h3vLgAusV0000b743 at hotmail.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
>
>Does anyone know of a rescue organization for piggies? Not that I'm
>planning on going anywhere soon, but I worry about what would happen to my
>piggies if something should happen to me.
>
>Thanks!
>Nancy
>
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